On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:37:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/11/13, 10:28 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/11/2013 6:58 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/11/13, 4:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Reading news accounts and viewing some of the images of areas in the
Philippines sure makes some of the stuff we are bitching about here seem
very trivial.


It's horrific. I'm glad to see we've dispatched some military units and
gear to the Philippines to help out. That's the most appreciated
activity in which our military engages...disaster relief provided by
American troops because the people of the United States care.

Liberal cry, let cut the military when they help America, but when
there is crisis elsewhere. Send in our wonderful military.
Mikek


Do you know how much we spend each year on the military?
Do you know how much other nations spend on their military?

We spend far too much on the military. The military budget can be cut.
Doing so will not prevent us from sending our military in to render
humanitarian aid where it is needed around the world.

Does the world need a policeman? Shoud the USA be doing the job? Should China? Should the United
Nations.

Maybe we should let the French take over.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:33:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:59:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
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Reading news accounts and viewing some of the images of areas in the
Philippines sure makes some of the stuff we are bitching about here seem
very trivial.

I bet they wish they had not thrown us out.

If nothing else, we would have had planes up in that storm and we
would have expanded our knowledge of what happens in a 200 MPH
cyclone.

We already know what happens in 200 MPH winds, but the Phillipines have
a lot of buildings that aren't built to any code.

Are you saying there was no science to be had investigating this
storm? Why do we fly hurricane hunter planes then?

No, I didn't say that.

One of the guys I worked with here was a flight engineer on a
hurricane hunter and I can assure you, there were crews here who
really wanted to fly that storm. If we were still at Clark, they would
have had the chance.


There's really not much to be had from going into the storm in a plane
except for meteorological data. It won't do anything to analyze what
will happen when it hits a land mass and buildings.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/11/13, 4:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Reading news accounts and viewing some of the images of areas in the
Philippines sure makes some of the stuff we are bitching about here seem
very trivial.


It's horrific. I'm glad to see we've dispatched some military units
and gear to the Philippines to help out. That's the most appreciated
activity in which our military engages...disaster relief provided by
American troops because the people of the United States care.

As long as it isn't a middle eastern country, eh?

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:59:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Reading news accounts and viewing some of the images of areas in the
Philippines sure makes some of the stuff we are bitching about here seem
very trivial.
I bet they wish they had not thrown us out.

If nothing else, we would have had planes up in that storm and we
would have expanded our knowledge of what happens in a 200 MPH
cyclone.
We already know what happens in 200 MPH winds, but the Phillipines have
a lot of buildings that aren't built to any code.
Those building all have 8000psi concrete and a ****load of #11 rebar.
What do you know since you aren't Kevin?

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:59:42 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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Are you saying there was no science to be had investigating this
storm? Why do we fly hurricane hunter planes then?

No, I didn't say that.

... and then you do.

Uh, no, meteorology IS science.....



There's really not much to be had from going into the storm in a plane
except for meteorological data. It won't do anything to analyze what
will happen when it hits a land mass and buildings.

I would think there was plenty to learn by looking into the center of
the largest recorded storm since we started measuring them.

Yes, all of it meteorlogical.

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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:34:44 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:59:42 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Are you saying there was no science to be had investigating this
storm? Why do we fly hurricane hunter planes then?

No, I didn't say that.

... and then you do.

Uh, no, meteorology IS science.....



There's really not much to be had from going into the storm in a plane
except for meteorological data. It won't do anything to analyze what
will happen when it hits a land mass and buildings.

I would think there was plenty to learn by looking into the center of
the largest recorded storm since we started measuring them.

Yes, all of it meteorlogical.


So you agree it would have been valuable to fly that storm.

Never said it wouldn't be.