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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 639551947405824861.391550bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2089925327405800035.194988bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 660801035405735036.600713bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1845149103405719249.304688bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. Die from what? Drugs and exposure. Next. Oh, bull****! I wonder why all of the addicts are still on Market St. in SF? If what you said made any sense, they wouldn't be there, they'd be dead from "drugs and exposure". Next. Because SF pays the highest welfare payments in the country. Those street people get food, medical care, etc. they die sometimes. But mostly the SF police pick them up and take them to SF General, if they look like health problem. So they could just as well be in your yard. Next. Then they infringe on my space, and I have the police remove them. Next. More come the next day. Next. And the normal infinite loop arguing by Kevin. Next. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:25:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article 639551947405824861.391550bmckeenospam- , says... So they could just as well be in your yard. Next. Then they infringe on my space, and I have the police remove them. Next. More come the next day. Next. Just turn on the sprinklers. Actually the raccoons that are tearing up the lawn presently, might tear up the sitters. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:38:37 -0600, Califbill wrote: Just turn on the sprinklers. Actually the raccoons that are tearing up the lawn presently, might tear up the sitters. Raccoons tearing up the yard? Are you sure it isn't armadillos? Raccoons get in the trash and eat the fruit off your trees but I have not heard of them tearing up the lawn. Armadillos will drill a 2" hole in the ground about 50 times a night digging up grubs and other tasty lawn critters. Now when you get gopher tortoises you can really get some damage. I still put up with them tho. No armadillos here. The raccoons go after the worms and grubs. My lawn was being over watered, problem with the sprinkler controller. So very wet, and I think it drove the worms and grubs toward the surface. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:51:39 -0600, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:38:37 -0600, Califbill wrote: Just turn on the sprinklers. Actually the raccoons that are tearing up the lawn presently, might tear up the sitters. Raccoons tearing up the yard? Are you sure it isn't armadillos? Raccoons get in the trash and eat the fruit off your trees but I have not heard of them tearing up the lawn. Armadillos will drill a 2" hole in the ground about 50 times a night digging up grubs and other tasty lawn critters. Now when you get gopher tortoises you can really get some damage. I still put up with them tho. No armadillos here. The raccoons go after the worms and grubs. My lawn was being over watered, problem with the sprinkler controller. So very wet, and I think it drove the worms and grubs toward the surface. And to think that I used to get a buck and a half for a raccoon skin when I was in high school. Of course, we spent a lot of time in the woods at night to make our few dollars. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
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says... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:28:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:38:37 -0600, Califbill wrote: Just turn on the sprinklers. Actually the raccoons that are tearing up the lawn presently, might tear up the sitters. Raccoons tearing up the yard? Are you sure it isn't armadillos? Raccoons get in the trash and eat the fruit off your trees but I have not heard of them tearing up the lawn. Armadillos will drill a 2" hole in the ground about 50 times a night digging up grubs and other tasty lawn critters. Now when you get gopher tortoises you can really get some damage. I still put up with them tho. Friggin' armadillos in FL will ruin a lawn!! They are tough on Floritam but bahia seems to recover fairly fast. I don't think bahia collects as many of the bugs they like either. My neighbors seem to have worse armadillo damage than I do. I don't obsess on my lawn tho I don't irrigate so it gets pretty rough in the spring and winter. What you expect from a Florida Swamp person. ;) |
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