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Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote:
Oh, good god, your jawbone needs to relax...... I must not have perused this group long enough to have heard the jawbone story, can someone get me up to date about it? Also, can some make a list of alias's, I don't know who the references refer to. Loogie Harry etc. etc. Loogy and iboater are one and the same. Scotty had hurt his jawbone and made mention of same. Loogy tends to take a statement like that and use it against Scotty for months and months. FOAD, ESAD, Krause, and Harry (along with several other names) are one and the same. Harry despises anyone who is anonymous on usenet (except himself of course). Just remember, filters are your friend. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 9:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 660801035405735036.600713bmckeenospam- You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. Die from what? Drugs and exposure. Next. Oh, bull****! I wonder why all of the addicts are still on Market St. in SF? If what you said made any sense, they wouldn't be there, they'd be dead from "drugs and exposure". Next. Interesting statistics from the National Institute on Drug Abuse (USA numbers): About 570,000 people die annually due to drug use. 440,000 of them are from diseases related to smoking tobacco. 85,000 are due directly to alcohol abuse. 20,000 are due directly to the use of illicit drugs. 20,000 are due directly to prescription drug abuse. About 43,000 people die each year in automobile accidents. Half are alcohol or drug related. About 32,000 people a year die of firearms related causes. Over half of them are suicides. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 9:45 AM, True North wrote:
tells so many lies that even he can't figure out his own reality. That explains his Neverland PeterPan/TinkerBell lifestyle. Lying is an explanation for those types of behaviors? Who would have known? |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote: Oh, good god, your jawbone needs to relax...... I must not have perused this group long enough to have heard the jawbone story, can someone get me up to date about it? Also, can some make a list of alias's, I don't know who the references refer to. Loogie Harry etc. etc. Loogy and iboater are one and the same. Scotty had hurt his jawbone and made mention of same. Loogy tends to take a statement like that and use it against Scotty for months and months. FOAD, ESAD, Krause, and Harry (along with several other names) are one and the same. Harry despises anyone who is anonymous on usenet (except himself of course). Just remember, filters are your friend. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. I'd love to see you try to stand on a balance beam, you lopsided oaf. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote: Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. I never really understood "new math". The reference point changes therefore you are now a "tad" bit to the left? Looking back, you used to be where you claim to be now but I think more recently you took a hard turn to port somewhere along the line. One thing that I just don't get: Progressives push for entitlements and "do good" programs that from a compassionate point of view nobody can really argue with. But the hard core reality is that the country is going broke (or *is* broke) with what we have in tax revenue based programs now. Other posters have pointed out that slashing defense spending still doesn't come close to filling the coffers to pay for what's in force now, let alone pay for more. Same with business tax revenues and the "1 per centers". Nailing them with high marginal taxes still won't raise enough money. The deficits still have to be borrowed. Somewhere along the line ... and this is where some of the Tea Party preachings have some validity ... some very difficult decisions are going to have to be made in terms of how much tax revenues can continue to be earmarked for entitlements. The progressive philosophy seems to always be "we can't afford *not* to invest in these federally funded programs. Seems to me we can't afford much of anything ... period. This, along with the article I referenced in an earlier post this morning about a prediction that, unless things change, in four years there will be more work-age people *not* working and collecting some form of federal aid than people working and paying taxes only makes matters much worse. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 8:59 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/10/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote: Oh, good god, your jawbone needs to relax...... I must not have perused this group long enough to have heard the jawbone story, can someone get me up to date about it? Also, can some make a list of alias's, I don't know who the references refer to. Loogie Harry etc. etc. Loogy and iboater are one and the same. Scotty had hurt his jawbone and made mention of same. Loogy tends to take a statement like that and use it against Scotty for months and months. FOAD, ESAD, Krause, and Harry (along with several other names) are one and the same. Harry despises anyone who is anonymous on usenet (except himself of course). Just remember, filters are your friend. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. I'd love to see you try to stand on a balance beam, you lopsided oaf. Lol, belly laugh :-) As much as I'm against name calling, that was funny. Mikek |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/13, 11:52 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/10/2013 8:59 AM, Hank© wrote: On 11/10/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote: Oh, good god, your jawbone needs to relax...... I must not have perused this group long enough to have heard the jawbone story, can someone get me up to date about it? Also, can some make a list of alias's, I don't know who the references refer to. Loogie Harry etc. etc. Loogy and iboater are one and the same. Scotty had hurt his jawbone and made mention of same. Loogy tends to take a statement like that and use it against Scotty for months and months. FOAD, ESAD, Krause, and Harry (along with several other names) are one and the same. Harry despises anyone who is anonymous on usenet (except himself of course). Just remember, filters are your friend. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. I'd love to see you try to stand on a balance beam, you lopsided oaf. Lol, belly laugh :-) As much as I'm against name calling, that was funny. Mikek It figures you also would be a fan of junior high school level humor. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
On 11/10/2013 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/10/13, 11:52 AM, amdx wrote: On 11/10/2013 8:59 AM, Hank© wrote: On 11/10/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/10/13, 9:25 AM, amdx wrote: Oh, good god, your jawbone needs to relax...... I must not have perused this group long enough to have heard the jawbone story, can someone get me up to date about it? Also, can some make a list of alias's, I don't know who the references refer to. Loogie Harry etc. etc. Loogy and iboater are one and the same. Scotty had hurt his jawbone and made mention of same. Loogy tends to take a statement like that and use it against Scotty for months and months. FOAD, ESAD, Krause, and Harry (along with several other names) are one and the same. Harry despises anyone who is anonymous on usenet (except himself of course). Just remember, filters are your friend. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Thanks, I printed it out. I don't filter, if a topic doesn't interest me I just ignore. FOAD is fun because he is so far left that he says things even he doesn't believe. iboater just follows the lead of FOAD. Mikek Actually, Mikey, I'm just a tad left of where the center in this country used to be. The problem is the "right" has moved so far to the right it has shifted the center. As to whether I state in my political posts what I believe, well, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't equipped intellectually to offer up such a judgment. I'd love to see you try to stand on a balance beam, you lopsided oaf. Lol, belly laugh :-) As much as I'm against name calling, that was funny. Mikek It figures you also would be a fan of junior high school level humor. I would expect no less than a personal attack from you. Mikek |
Tea Party Finds Its Next Line in the Sand Battle.
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 660801035405735036.600713bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1845149103405719249.304688bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 219522587405713035.186833bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 2108469628405640335.587771bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1387081389405627643.933360bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 145542309405567106.527220bmckeenospam- , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: Save the Transfats! FDA eyes ban on trans fats due to heart disease risk Trans fats may be on their way out of U.S. foods. The Food and Drug Administration has announced plans to have so-called "partially hydrogenated oils (PHOs)," which are the main source of artificial trans fats in processed foods, to be classified as food additives. That means they won't be allowed to be used in food without authorization of the FDA, which may effectively ban the substances. FDA commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg told reporters Wednesday that the action is being considered because PHOs are "not generally recognized as safe for use in food." The agency will allow 60 days for comments from the public and food manufacturers, asking the latter how long it might take to reformulate current products should the determination be finalized. The agency pointed out some companies have voluntarily been scaling back the amount of trans fat in foods. But it wants more to be done - an additional 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths from heart disease each year could be prevented by reducing trans fats, according to the FDA. "These are significant numbers," said Hamburg. "While consumption of potentially harmful artificial trans fat has declined over the last two decades in the United States, current intake remains a significant public health concern," she added in a statement. "The FDA's action today is an important step toward protecting more Americans from the potential dangers of trans fat." The oils behind trans fats can be found in crackers, cookies, frozen pies, other baked goods, microwave popcorn and other snacks, frozen pizza, coffee creamers, refrigerated dough products (like biscuits and cinnamon rolls), ready-to-use frostings, vegetable shortenings and stick margarine, according to the FDA. Consuming trans fat has been tied to an increased risk for coronary heart disease, a condition in which plaque builds up inside the arteries, which may lead to a heart attack. Previous research, including a 2002 report from the nonpartisan Institute of Medicine, found a direct correlation between eating trans fats and increased levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, which in turn can increase heart disease risk. The institute recommended against eating any amount of the fats, finding they offered no health benefit. Nanny state! Yeah, people should be as unhealthy as possible, then all of the tax payers can pay for their care. Still, what is happening to freedom here? I have no problem with what anybody does to themselves as long as it doesn't burden ME. That said, who gets to pick and choose just WHAT "freedoms"? Should one be free to rape or murder? How about arson? Okay with that? Before you go on about those involve other people, so does drug use, alcohol use, tobacco use, trans-fat use, and on and on. You should have freedom to do pretty much what ever you want, as long as the rest of us do not have to pay for your actions. Rape, murder. That is someone else paying for your actions. Drugs? You want to use them? Your choice. But we, as a society, are not picking up your medical or societal costs. Your family can not afford to support you, you die. But drug use DOES affect others. In many ways. Are you okay with trawlers going to your favorite lake and scooping every living thing out of it? All negative actions affect someone somehow. Sure drugs affect others, but unless the drug addict is committing crimes to get the drugs, they affect their close family, friends. Not society as a whole. Illegal trawlers, etc, affect large parts of society, that is not closely connected. Horse****! I'd guess then, you'd have no problem with drug addicts camped in your yard every morning? If you had a business, you'd have no problem with drug addicts sleeping in your doorway? They die, and don't camp anymore. Die from what? Drugs and exposure. Next. Oh, bull****! I wonder why all of the addicts are still on Market St. in SF? If what you said made any sense, they wouldn't be there, they'd be dead from "drugs and exposure". Next. Because SF pays the highest welfare payments in the country. Those street people get food, medical care, etc. they die sometimes. But mostly the SF police pick them up and take them to SF General, if they look like health problem. |
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