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iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 12:56 PM

Good news for middle America
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:53:48 -0400,
wrote:

After all it is 2013 and the Navahos are not held on the reservation
by law. They can load up the pickup and move to town.
There must be something keeping them there.


===

Perhaps but its not clear to me what it is. We were through parts of
Navaho country last year and the vast majority are living in
ramshackle mobile homes surrounded by junk and driving 30 year old
pick up trucks.


According to Greg and John, it's because they are so stinking rich!!!

iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 12:58 PM

Good news for middle America
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.


Cite?


You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.


That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!

John H[_2_] October 24th 13 01:19 PM

Good news for middle America
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?


You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.


That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!


With all due respect, sir, I read, "...when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually."

Perhaps you missed that?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 02:19 PM

Good news for middle America
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.


That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!


With all due respect, sir, I read, "...when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually."

Perhaps you missed that?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do the words "as high as" have any meaning to you?

John H[_2_] October 24th 13 03:02 PM

Good news for middle America
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:19:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.

That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!


With all due respect, sir, I read, "...when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually."

Perhaps you missed that?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do the words "as high as" have any meaning to you?


Well, sir, it's surely not '...a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!!', but perhaps it is. You,
after all, are much brighter than I am. My gosh, you've even implied a limitation to liability is a
bad thing. I'm thinking you were just joking then.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Charlemagne October 24th 13 03:02 PM

Good news for middle America
 
On 10/24/2013 10:02 AM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:19:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.

That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!

With all due respect, sir, I read, "...when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually."

Perhaps you missed that?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do the words "as high as" have any meaning to you?


Well, sir, it's surely not '...a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!!', but perhaps it is. You,
after all, are much brighter than I am. My gosh, you've even implied a limitation to liability is a
bad thing. I'm thinking you were just joking then.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Oh John, you are such a card:)

iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 04:53 PM

Good news for middle America
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.


That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!


What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000
annually." is so hard for you to understand?

"Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do.,

The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members.

The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about
his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get
the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is
about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail
a while tho.


What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that.

"The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In
comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small
amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in
extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem
of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans
have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun
to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major
issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has
prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the
highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America.
The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]"

Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are
usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot
Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the
national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even
during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the
2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less
than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that
the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003-
2005 was $33,627.[12]

John H[_2_] October 24th 13 05:11 PM

Good news for middle America
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.

That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!


What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000
annually." is so hard for you to understand?

"Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do.,

The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members.

The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about
his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get
the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is
about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail
a while tho.


What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that.

"The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In
comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small
amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in
extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem
of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans
have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun
to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major
issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has
prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the
highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America.
The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]"

Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are
usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot
Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the
national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even
during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the
2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less
than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that
the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003-
2005 was $33,627.[12]


With a poverty rate of 25%[12], they are right along with the big cities run by Democrats. Maybe
they should start voting Republican and get their education system fixed.

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 05:38 PM

Good news for middle America
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.

That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!

What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000
annually." is so hard for you to understand?

"Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do.,

The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members.

The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about
his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get
the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is
about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail
a while tho.


What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that.

"The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In
comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small
amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in
extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem
of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans
have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun
to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major
issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has
prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the
highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America.
The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]"

Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are
usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot
Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the
national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even
during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the
2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less
than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that
the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003-
2005 was $33,627.[12]


With a poverty rate of 25%[12], they are right along with the big cities run by Democrats. Maybe
they should start voting Republican and get their education system fixed.

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Typical narrow mindedness, take ONE statistic and ignore the rest.....

Califbill October 24th 13 06:56 PM

Good news for middle America
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members.
That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member.

Cite?

You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member

http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income
The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar
because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling
distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member
were as high as $160,000 annually.

Not a bad living just for being an indian.

That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with
the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!!

What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000
annually." is so hard for you to understand?

"Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do.,

The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members.

The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about
his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get
the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is
about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail
a while tho.

What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that.

"The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In
comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small
amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in
extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem
of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans
have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun
to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major
issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has
prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the
highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America.
The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]"

Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are
usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot
Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the
national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even
during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the
2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less
than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that
the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003-
2005 was $33,627.[12]


With a poverty rate of 25%[12], they are right along with the big cities
run by Democrats. Maybe
they should start voting Republican and get their education system fixed.

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Typical narrow mindedness, take ONE statistic and ignore the rest.....


Why are these welfare dependent places long term poverty centers? You
would think with the government handing out help and money they could
quickly rise up the economic ladder.


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