On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,

offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And

Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion

to come out against the ACA.



Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in

Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health

care insurance.

Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?

On 10/18/13, 6:15 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,

offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And

Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion

to come out against the ACA.



Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in

Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health

care insurance.

Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?



Uh, I think you missed the point. Bachmann is using her simple-minded
religious beliefs to come out against health care coverage for those who
can't otherwise get it. The question should be, why is it relevant to
use your religious belief to keep health insurance away from others?
Why are Christians in this country so adamant about pushing their
beliefs onto others who believe differently? (Not that I believe
Bachmann has any beliefs, other than the "righteousness" of sounding
really stupid)

On Friday, October 18, 2013 5:22:05 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/18/13, 6:15 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,



offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And



Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion



to come out against the ACA.







Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in



Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health



care insurance.



Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?







Uh, I think you missed the point. Bachmann is using her simple-minded

religious beliefs to come out against health care coverage for those who

can't otherwise get it. The question should be, why is it relevant to

use your religious belief to keep health insurance away from others?

Why are Christians in this country so adamant about pushing their

beliefs onto others who believe differently? (Not that I believe

Bachmann has any beliefs, other than the "righteousness" of sounding

really stupid)

You're statement that I was replying to was:

"Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in
Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health care insurance. "

Now that you mentioned it though, why do you feel so adamant about pushing your political beliefs onto others who believe differently?

On 10/18/13, 8:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 5:22:05 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/18/13, 6:15 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,



offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And



Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion



to come out against the ACA.







Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in



Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health



care insurance.



Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?







Uh, I think you missed the point. Bachmann is using her simple-minded

religious beliefs to come out against health care coverage for those who

can't otherwise get it. The question should be, why is it relevant to

use your religious belief to keep health insurance away from others?

Why are Christians in this country so adamant about pushing their

beliefs onto others who believe differently? (Not that I believe

Bachmann has any beliefs, other than the "righteousness" of sounding

really stupid)

You're statement that I was replying to was:

"Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in
Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health care insurance. "

Now that you mentioned it though, why do you feel so adamant about pushing your political beliefs onto others who believe differently?


I'm not pushing anything. My political beliefs do not prevent anyone
from obtaining coverage under the ACA.

On 10/18/2013 8:32 PM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, October 18, 2013 5:22:05 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


"Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in
Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health care insurance. "



Now that you mentioned it though, why do you feel so adamant about pushing your political beliefs onto others who believe differently?



Politics *is* religion to some, including Harry.

On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:45:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/18/13, 8:32 PM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, October 18, 2013 5:22:05 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 10/18/13, 6:15 PM, Tim wrote:



On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:



"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,







offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And







Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion







to come out against the ACA.















Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in







Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health







care insurance.







Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?















Uh, I think you missed the point. Bachmann is using her simple-minded



religious beliefs to come out against health care coverage for those who



can't otherwise get it. The question should be, why is it relevant to



use your religious belief to keep health insurance away from others?



Why are Christians in this country so adamant about pushing their



beliefs onto others who believe differently? (Not that I believe



Bachmann has any beliefs, other than the "righteousness" of sounding



really stupid)



You're statement that I was replying to was:



"Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in

Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health care insurance. "



Now that you mentioned it though, why do you feel so adamant about pushing your political beliefs onto others who believe differently?





I'm not pushing anything. My political beliefs do not prevent anyone

from obtaining coverage under the ACA.

sure you are.

that would be like after a street sermon, a preacher or religious leader saying "I'm not pushing anything. My religious beliefs do not force anyone from or into accepting a religious faith"

But, if you really feel like you're not pushing any political thing, then why is it at almost every thread you make is swelled with it?

On 10/18/2013 8:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



I'm not pushing anything. My political beliefs do not prevent anyone
from obtaining coverage under the ACA.

No, what prevents anyone from obtaining coverage under the ACA is an
impossible to navigate federal website and general lack of interest by
the public.

I read somewhere today that the contract to develop the website was
given to a Canadian controlled company who used 10 year old technology
in it's three year development. It also has incurred cost overruns that
has more than doubled the original cost.

Eugene Robinson had it right today when he said, "A group of overly
caffeinated 20 year olds could have done a better job".

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2013 8:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



I'm not pushing anything. My political beliefs do not prevent anyone
from obtaining coverage under the ACA.

No, what prevents anyone from obtaining coverage under the ACA is an
impossible to navigate federal website and general lack of interest by the public.

I read somewhere today that the contract to develop the website was given
to a Canadian controlled company who used 10 year old technology in it's
three year development. It also has incurred cost overruns that has more
than doubled the original cost.

Eugene Robinson had it right today when he said, "A group of overly
caffeinated 20 year olds could have done a better job".

Why does the government need to pay extra when the let a contract for a
specified amount for the job? Would you hire a contractor to build a new
swimming pool and then when he gets 25% done, he says oops! I under bid the
price. You will have to pay 3 times as much to get the job finished?

On 10/18/2013 10:26 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2013 8:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:



I'm not pushing anything. My political beliefs do not prevent anyone
from obtaining coverage under the ACA.

No, what prevents anyone from obtaining coverage under the ACA is an
impossible to navigate federal website and general lack of interest by the public.

I read somewhere today that the contract to develop the website was given
to a Canadian controlled company who used 10 year old technology in it's
three year development. It also has incurred cost overruns that has more
than doubled the original cost.

Eugene Robinson had it right today when he said, "A group of overly
caffeinated 20 year olds could have done a better job".

Why does the government need to pay extra when the let a contract for a
specified amount for the job? Would you hire a contractor to build a new
swimming pool and then when he gets 25% done, he says oops! I under bid the
price. You will have to pay 3 times as much to get the job finished?


Depends on the type of contract. Some are "fixed price". Many
government contracts are "cost plus" where the actual costs plus an
allowable profit are billed. Contractors to the government love these.

On 10/18/2013 8:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 5:22:05 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/18/13, 6:15 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:53:19 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

"...born again believer in Jesus Christ," says Michelle Bachmann,



offering up her rationale for opposing the Affordable Care Act. And



Bachmann is not the only self-described Christian who uses her religion



to come out against the ACA.







Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in



Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health



care insurance.



Since when was Christianity supposed to deal with insurance?







Uh, I think you missed the point. Bachmann is using her simple-minded

religious beliefs to come out against health care coverage for those who

can't otherwise get it. The question should be, why is it relevant to

use your religious belief to keep health insurance away from others?

Why are Christians in this country so adamant about pushing their

beliefs onto others who believe differently? (Not that I believe

Bachmann has any beliefs, other than the "righteousness" of sounding

really stupid)

You're statement that I was replying to was:

"Perhaps one of you "born agains" can explain what there is in
Christianity that is against helping those who need it obtain health care insurance. "

Nothing, pass a bill that does it.. you know, puts more people into
health care, than lose it.... and their jobs, and their money, and their
dignity, and their..............and, and, and.....

Now that you mentioned it though, why do you feel so adamant about pushing your political beliefs onto others who believe differently?