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If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh'
This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ |
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It's the 'race to the bottom' in pricing that concerns me not to mention the conditions our fellow human beings are forced to endure in order to eat.
Sure paints a bleak picture for our grandkids future. Y'all can't live on borrowed money forever. |
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On 10/12/2013 7:16 AM, True North wrote:
It's the 'race to the bottom' in pricing that concerns me not to mention the conditions our fellow human beings are forced to endure in order to eat. Sure paints a bleak picture for our grandkids future. Y'all can't live on borrowed money forever. Neither can youuns. |
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On 10/12/2013 11:00 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Kids should receive guidance from their parents. |
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says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. |
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On 10/12/13 12:52 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. The Republithugs would like nothing better than to get rid of OSHA, labor laws, the minimum wage and everything else that prevents American workers from being serfs. |
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In article , says...
On 10/12/13 12:52 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. The Republithugs would like nothing better than to get rid of OSHA, labor laws, the minimum wage and everything else that prevents American workers from being serfs. Why do the Democrat/Progressive/liberals always need the helping hand of some authority or overlord? Is independent thought that dangerous to their goals and objectives that they have to babysit their members? |
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says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:52:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:21:45 -0400, wrote:
Imagine a McDonalds that only has a computer operator/cashier and a part time person or two that load up the machines in the morning and clean them at the end of the day. === New York City had that many years ago. It was called the Automat and it was a bit of a tourist attraction. http://exhibitions.nypl.org/lunchhou...chhour/automat |
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On 10/13/13 10:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? Things are worse in union states because companies are moving to right to work states ... and we don't have 10 year olds getting their hands cut off, without the union. Oh ****!!! You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! Of course you don't have kids getting hands cut off, laws and work rules are in place because of the unions of the past. That above is just silly and something I'd expect of Scotty. The problem with unions, especially "public service unions" is extortion. BART rapid transit has already struck once and the 60 day cooling off period is expiring. They demand 4% a year for the next 4 years. Lowest paid starting job is janitor. $57,000 a year. Train drivers are making $70k a year. GED or HS diploma required. Maybe. They pay $93 a month for their health plan, no matter how big the family is. Fully paid retirement plan. Making more than teachers, and most of the riders. Lots here have taken big cuts in pay, or lost their jobs. 2600 applicants when ever a BART job opens up. The union demanding a raise while vastly overpaid or they shut down the commuter trains for a half million riders. Extortion. |
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On 10/13/13, 1:22 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 10/13/13 10:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? Things are worse in union states because companies are moving to right to work states ... and we don't have 10 year olds getting their hands cut off, without the union. Oh ****!!! You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! Of course you don't have kids getting hands cut off, laws and work rules are in place because of the unions of the past. That above is just silly and something I'd expect of Scotty. The problem with unions, especially "public service unions" is extortion. BART rapid transit has already struck once and the 60 day cooling off period is expiring. They demand 4% a year for the next 4 years. Lowest paid starting job is janitor. $57,000 a year. Train drivers are making $70k a year. GED or HS diploma required. Maybe. They pay $93 a month for their health plan, no matter how big the family is. Fully paid retirement plan. Making more than teachers, and most of the riders. Lots here have taken big cuts in pay, or lost their jobs. 2600 applicants when ever a BART job opens up. The union demanding a raise while vastly overpaid or they shut down the commuter trains for a half million riders. Extortion. $70,000 a year is chump change for someone who has to live in the S.F. area. |
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On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. |
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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:10:47 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
That above is just silly and something I'd expect of Scotty. Sit DOWN asshole, you've also added NOTHING. |
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On Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:25:31 UTC-3, wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! |
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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:59:18 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! At least I can tell ,when my Boat is trimmed properly, WITHOUT the need for a old, Fatmans Guage. I can also back up my trailered Boat. Something you cant handle....being so ****ing STUPID. You're a zero, ****face. |
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On 10/13/13, 5:59 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:25:31 UTC-3, wrote: On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! Why read or comment on posts from Slammer? Hardly anyone else does, other than the usual right-wing trash. |
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In article , says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:52:22 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ What does this have to do with unions today, particularly in North America? A lot. If it weren't for unions, kids would be still working in unsafe conditions for slave wages. Have you not read historical accounts of the conditions that people had to work in in the factories of the northeast? That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? When I was 10 years old we were riding bikes off of our home build ramps and breaking some part of our bodies every couple of days. We were blowing stuff up with firecrackers and burning our hands when we held a Black Cat (firecracker) in our hands while it exploded. Those were the days when kids got to be kids and explore things and learn the harsh lessons of life. |
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On 10/13/2013 6:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/13/13, 5:59 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:25:31 UTC-3, wrote: On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! Why read or comment on posts from Slammer? Hardly anyone else does, other than the usual right-wing trash. And one dumb Canuck. |
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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:37:11 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Why read or comment on posts from Slammer? Hardly anyone else does, other than the usual right-wing trash. And you think there are those that read ANYHTING ...YOU print? PaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA |
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:13:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
It's extortion that people who work their way up want raises? 70k in the SF area isn't a great wage. === How does it compare with similar semi-skilled workers in private industry? Are other workers getting 4% annual increases? Are other jobs getting thousands of applicants for every opening? It's important to remember that BART was designed to be fully automated and the train operator is little more than an attendant, somewhat similar to an elevator operator. |
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On 10/13/2013 11:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 10:22:04 -0700, Bill McKee wrote: On 10/13/13 10:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? Things are worse in union states because companies are moving to right to work states ... and we don't have 10 year olds getting their hands cut off, without the union. Oh ****!!! You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! Of course you don't have kids getting hands cut off, laws and work rules are in place because of the unions of the past. That above is just silly and something I'd expect of Scotty. The problem with unions, especially "public service unions" is extortion. BART rapid transit has already struck once and the 60 day cooling off period is expiring. They demand 4% a year for the next 4 years. Lowest paid starting job is janitor. $57,000 a year. Train drivers are making $70k a year. GED or HS diploma required. Maybe. They pay $93 a month for their health plan, no matter how big the family is. Fully paid retirement plan. Making more than teachers, and most of the riders. Lots here have taken big cuts in pay, or lost their jobs. 2600 applicants when ever a BART job opens up. The union demanding a raise while vastly overpaid or they shut down the commuter trains for a half million riders. Extortion. Public service unions also sit on both sides of the bargaining table, since they have tremendous political power and they control the politicians who are supposed to counter their demands. Just look at what is going on in Detroit, LA or Atlanta. Detroit City. The model for aspiring union towns. |
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On 10/13/2013 11:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:21:45 -0400, wrote: Imagine a McDonalds that only has a computer operator/cashier and a part time person or two that load up the machines in the morning and clean them at the end of the day. === New York City had that many years ago. It was called the Automat and it was a bit of a tourist attraction. http://exhibitions.nypl.org/lunchhou...chhour/automat It was a pretty big thing to go to the Automat when I was a kid.... |
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On 10/13/2013 6:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/13/13, 5:59 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:25:31 UTC-3, wrote: On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! Why read or comment on posts from Slammer? Hardly anyone else does, other than the usual right-wing trash. Well, he does give you and don the opportunity to be antisocial and call names.. |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 04:16:47 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
It's the 'race to the bottom' in pricing that concerns me not to mention the conditions our fellow human beings are forced to endure in order to eat. Sure paints a bleak picture for our grandkids future. Y'all can't live on borrowed money forever. You realize that attitude violates the beliefs of the liberals in this country....right? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 10/13/2013 6:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 10/13/13, 5:59 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:25:31 UTC-3, wrote: On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: If anyone doubts the value of unions protecting workers rights, they should try to watch the CBC's Fifth Estate documentary on 'Made in Bangladesh' This talks about the working conditions leading up to the collapse of a factory killing over a thousand people... most making twenty five cents an hour producing cheap fashion clothing for North American market. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/ **** off asshole. You could care less about these people. ALL you are doing here is trying to look like your master, Krause. Get lost, jackass. Flagged for the idiot that he is! Why read or comment on posts from Slammer? Hardly anyone else does, other than the usual right-wing trash. Well, he does give you and don the opportunity to be antisocial and call names.. You are as vulgar, nasty and low class as slammer. |
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:09:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 04:16:47 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: It's the 'race to the bottom' in pricing that concerns me not to mention the conditions our fellow human beings are forced to endure in order to eat. Sure paints a bleak picture for our grandkids future. Y'all can't live on borrowed money forever. You realize that attitude violates the beliefs of the liberals in this country....right? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! I still want to know how the liberal democratic mind can conceive that borrowing MORE money is somehow "paying your debts". We are broke and can't pay our debts so the fix is to borrow more money? I hope I die before this whole house of cards falls in on us and I feel bad for our kids who will have to dig out of that rubble. What happens when the creditor nation(s) decide they get to define USA policy? |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:18:58 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:10:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? Things are worse in union states because companies are moving to right to work states ... and we don't have 10 year olds getting their hands cut off, without the union. Oh ****!!! You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! Of course you don't have kids getting hands cut off, laws and work rules are in place because of the unions of the past. That is the past. What do we have them for now? So we don't go back to slave labor. How does that go? Whoosh? I totally understood your question, and answered. ... with a ridiculous statement. What's ridiculous about that statement? Hell, I remember when I was a kid, there was a wooden chair factory in the next town that would hire just about anybody. They would have these 'meetings' whenever there was talk of unions going about. Tell everyone how bad it would be. There were gang drill presses, saws, etc. with guards taken off, safety switches disabled, etc. I worked there one summer after I turned 16, ran a gang drill, foreman would speed it up, just tell you to get used to it, then come back awhile later, speed it up some more. There were many people who worked there that had missing fingers and other various injuries. There was a fire there and it injured several people, no fire extinguishers around! It's now a union shop, and contrary to other's FOXite views, they've actually grown, but now it's a safe, clean place to work. I went in there with a friend who was now a supervisor, and what a difference, safe machinery, not breathing wood dust and fumes, and the steam room where they put trainloads of wood slats to bend actually had an outer area so that workers there didn't have to work in 130 degree heat. One of the only US furniture factories still existing? |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:13:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: It's extortion that people who work their way up want raises? 70k in the SF area isn't a great wage. === How does it compare with similar semi-skilled workers in private industry? Are other workers getting 4% annual increases? Are other jobs getting thousands of applicants for every opening? It's important to remember that BART was designed to be fully automated and the train operator is little more than an attendant, somewhat similar to an elevator operator. They want raises for the same job, no working up the ladder. |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/13/13 10:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:25:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... That was before OSHA, labor laws and TV lawyers. Which came about because of organized unions. Like most things, they ran out of things to make better so they started making things worse and now they are done. Things are worse now because we don't have kids 10 years old getting hands severed, working 15 hour days in unsafe factories with no safety equipment, if you get hurt you are just out of a job, bosses that beat them to get more production, and on and on? Really? Things are worse in union states because companies are moving to right to work states ... and we don't have 10 year olds getting their hands cut off, without the union. Oh ****!!! You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! Of course you don't have kids getting hands cut off, laws and work rules are in place because of the unions of the past. That above is just silly and something I'd expect of Scotty. The problem with unions, especially "public service unions" is extortion. BART rapid transit has already struck once and the 60 day cooling off period is expiring. They demand 4% a year for the next 4 years. Lowest paid starting job is janitor. $57,000 a year. Train drivers are making $70k a year. GED or HS diploma required. Maybe. They pay $93 a month for their health plan, no matter how big the family is. Fully paid retirement plan. Making more than teachers, and most of the riders. Lots here have taken big cuts in pay, or lost their jobs. 2600 applicants when ever a BART job opens up. The union demanding a raise while vastly overpaid or they shut down the commuter trains for a half million riders. Extortion. It's extortion that people who work their way up want raises? 70k in the SF area isn't a great wage. It is not a bad wage either. Especially for a low skill job. How much skill does it take to sit in the cab of a BART car and make sure the doors are not stuck because someone is in the door, or if the computer control fails, you drive, actually just move the throttle enough to go 25 mph to the next station. They are not supposed to read books, etc, but you see it all the time if you drive next to a moving BART train. |
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