On 9/30/13 1:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/30/13 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/30/13 1:55 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/28/13 6:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/28/13 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/28/13 12:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Freedom of speech.


Separation of religion and state.

The Kansas Christian Talibaners are free to preach whatever superstitious
nonsense they want in their private churches, church schools, homes, et
cetera. No religious beliefs should be taught
in the public's K-12 schools, and creationism is a religious belief.

Except for atheism, Mohammedism, etc. still they have freedom of speech,
and lawsuits to press their belief.


You think the public schools in Kansas are pushing atheism and the Muslim
faith as religious belief?

No one is stopping a Christian pastor preaching his superstitious
nonsense, but not, thank you, in public schools.

We have had a day of being a Muslim here in a Calif. Schools. They
installed a statue to an Aztec god in a San Jose park .


So, are there lots of converts to the Aztec religion gathering around the statue?

Still government support of a defined religion!


Not likely.

Whoosh.

More likely, it is an art piece. There aren't many followers any more of
the Aztec religion, and they probably aren't proselytizing.

Still a religious object, paid for by taxpayers.


Play your silliness with someone who takes your inane complaint
seriously. A rock is also a religious object in some religions. Let's
remove all the rocks placed in parks.

On Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:58:20 AM UTC-5, Hank© wrote:
On 9/28/2013 7:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Christian groups sue to stop Kansas schools

from adopting science standards



Your boy is getting ready to shut the country down and all ypu can think

about is this silly stuff in Kansas. You really have morphed into a

looney toons character, Krausie baby.

The Kansas schools only have one purpose and that is to keep Krause's blood pressure from dropping too low. However, not one word of thanks will come from him.

On Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:55:14 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Christian groups sue to stop Kansas schools

from adopting science standards



Christian groups filed a pair of lawsuits in Federal District Court

challenging the Kansas state Board of Education’s decision to implement

a state-wide set of science standards. On June 11, the Kansas state

Board of Education adopted a universal set of science standards to be

taught in classrooms across the state from kindergarten to grade 12.

Faith groups are up in arms that their beliefs are not being given more

credence in science classes.



According to a statement on the Pacific Justice Institute’s website, the

teaching of science in all of the state’s public schools could create “a

hostile learning environment for those of faith.” The institute — which

purports to defend “religious freedom, parental rights and other civil

liberties” — is challenging the fact that the new science standards do

not give equal weight to the Christian creation myth.





The suit alleges that the new standards will “promote religious beliefs

that are inconsistent with the theistic religious beliefs of plaintiffs,

thereby depriving them of the right to be free from government that

favors one religious view over another.” The group asked the court to

place an injunction on the implementation of Next Generation Science

Standards and the corresponding lesson plan handbook, Framework for K-12

Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts and Core Ideas.



Another group, the Citizens for Objective Public Education (COPE, Inc.)

filed suit on Sep. 26 demanding that the new curricula not be

instituted. In a press release, CORE said that the science standards

would “will have the effect of causing Kansas public schools to

establish and endorse a non-theistic religious worldview,” which the

group said is a violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments of the

U.S. Constitution.



Brad Dachus of Pacific Justice complained that is a violation of a

child’s rights to teach them that Creationism isn’t the truth.



“(I)t’s an egregious violation of the rights of Americans to subject

students — as young as five — to an authoritative figure such as a

teacher who essentially tells them that their faith is wrong,” he said.



He maintained that to teach science “that is devoid of any alternative

which aligns with the belief of people of faith is just wrong.”



COPE, Inc. said that the science standards have a “concealed Orthodoxy”

that is bent on undermining the views of the faithful.



“The Orthodoxy is not religiously neutral as it permits only

materialistic/atheistic answers to ultimate religious questions,” said

the group’s statement. The group maintained that questions like “Where

do we come from?” can only be answered honestly by religious dogma.



The statement went on to say that “teaching the materialistic/atheistic

ideas to primary school children whose minds are susceptible to blindly

accepting them as true” is unconstitutional and dangerous, and therefore

the new science standards must be stopped.



http://tinyurl.com/qdwsdmz



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Yes, because it is always a great idea to teach kids superstitious

nonsense in the public schools.



Taliban-like behavior, in Kansas.

Krause you ignore the possibility that maybe the people are trying to teach the Kansas School districts a lesson in tolorance

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/201...mic-tolerance/