http://www.wtae.com/page/search/htv-...z/-/index.html

A man in his early 30s entered Armen's House of Music one afternoon, looked around and left. He
returned just a few minutes later with a wooden club and began attacking the owner's wife, Sylvia
Armen, who was working in the store at the time. The owner, Alfred Armen, heard the commotion and
ran to his wife's aid. He tried to defend his wife and fought with the suspect before shooting him
fatally. Mr. and Mrs. Armen were later taken to a hospital with head injuries and are expected to
recover. According to police, there was no motive behind the attack. (WTAE.com, Bethel Park, PA,)

Thank goodness for guns.
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John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:43:00 -0400, John H
wrote:

Thank goodness for guns.

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Thank goodness we have the right to defend ourselves, at least in some
states.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:43:00 -0400, John H
wrote:

Thank goodness for guns.

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Thank goodness we have the right to defend ourselves, at least in some
states.

In what state do you not have the "right to defend" yourself?

On 9/20/13 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:08:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Thank goodness we have the right to defend ourselves, at least in some
states.

In what state do you not have the "right to defend" yourself?

In northeastern states that right is not as absolute as you would have
us believe.
I know a guy who did 7 years in Md for killing an intruder in his own
home (bare hands).

The operative question at trial was "after you hit him the first time,
could you have escaped (from your own home)"
The answer was "maybe"
Then it was "why did you hit him again"

... guilty as charged.

It is one reason why using a gun is safer, legally.

You are in danger ... bang... you are not. As long as you don't shoot
again, it was self defense.

In an empty hand defense or using any blunt object, you have to
justify every single blow.


So, when PsychoScotty attempts his long-threatened home invasion and
gets as his reward a single blast in the belly from a 12-gauge when he
busts down the door...I was simply defending myself or standing my
ground. Got it! There's really no way to "quickly retreat."

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


So, when PsychoScotty attempts his long-threatened home invasion and
gets as his reward a single blast in the belly from a 12-gauge when he
busts down the door...I was simply defending myself or standing my
ground. Got it! There's really no way to "quickly retreat."

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Scott has apparently taken a leave of absence. Probably the smartest
thing he has done in a while. No reason to ping on him.

On 9/20/2013 3:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


So, when PsychoScotty attempts his long-threatened home invasion and
gets as his reward a single blast in the belly from a 12-gauge when he
busts down the door...I was simply defending myself or standing my
ground. Got it! There's really no way to "quickly retreat."

--------------------------

Scott has apparently taken a leave of absence. Probably the smartest
thing he has done in a while. No reason to ping on him.



I have not gone anywhere, been busy with life now that Jess is back on
her feet and I am riding again... I would think however you would call
harry on the lie about me ever threatening to invade his home. It never
happened... ever... But I really don't expect that kind of integrity
from any of the hy.... um.. forget it...

You actually might be the one here who has lost his mind.. I noticed
when I got busy for a couple days, you went after Greg. I think you need
it as much as don and harry...

On 9/20/13 3:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


So, when PsychoScotty attempts his long-threatened home invasion and
gets as his reward a single blast in the belly from a 12-gauge when he
busts down the door...I was simply defending myself or standing my
ground. Got it! There's really no way to "quickly retreat."

--------------------------

Scott has apparently taken a leave of absence. Probably the smartest
thing he has done in a while. No reason to ping on him.



I wouldn't bet on PsychoSnotty being on a leave of absence.

On Friday, September 20, 2013 3:45:59 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Scott has apparently taken a leave of absence. Probably the smartest

thing he has done in a while. No reason to ping on him.


Why don't you, ****face, and take that weasel Krause with you??

You could give each other "reach-arounds"....

On 9/20/13 2:54 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:17:23 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

In northeastern states that right is not as absolute as you would have
us believe.
I know a guy who did 7 years in Md for killing an intruder in his own
home (bare hands).

The operative question at trial was "after you hit him the first time,
could you have escaped (from your own home)"
The answer was "maybe"
Then it was "why did you hit him again"

... guilty as charged.

It is one reason why using a gun is safer, legally.

You are in danger ... bang... you are not. As long as you don't shoot
again, it was self defense.

In an empty hand defense or using any blunt object, you have to
justify every single blow.


So, when PsychoScotty attempts his long-threatened home invasion and
gets as his reward a single blast in the belly from a 12-gauge when he
busts down the door...I was simply defending myself or standing my
ground. Got it! There's really no way to "quickly retreat."

Like Marko Ramius says, "just one ping"


One "ping" should be sufficient.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:08:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Thank goodness we have the right to defend ourselves, at least in some
states.

In what state do you not have the "right to defend" yourself?

In northeastern states that right is not as absolute as you would have
us believe.
I know a guy who did 7 years in Md for killing an intruder in his own
home (bare hands).

Bull****. Has to be more to it than that.

The operative question at trial was "after you hit him the first time,
could you have escaped (from your own home)"
The answer was "maybe"
Then it was "why did you hit him again"

... guilty as charged.

It is one reason why using a gun is safer, legally.

You are in danger ... bang... you are not. As long as you don't shoot
again, it was self defense.

In an empty hand defense or using any blunt object, you have to
justify every single blow.

Cite?