On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool.



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:17:46 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote: A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot of the problem. My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that conservatives hold women in low regard, including their
wives.
The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have guns.

Well, jps, you've gotta start somewhere. If your liberal buddies won't give up their guns, then maybe you're fighting a losing battle.

Your anti-women bull**** is just more anti-conservative liberal trash. Besides, Harry said it first. It does make sense, doesn't it, that women shot in a household are probably in one with a gun? Of course, I suppose the shooter could come in from outside the household.

How many of those households to which you refer are in Chicago?

You must have had your head in the sand during the last election
cycle. Repubicans are losing the female vote in droves and it's for a
reason that doesn't have anything to do with Democrats.

That was a smooth change of subject.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/19/2013 9:13 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool.



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.


Your brain appears to be on an extended sabbatical.

In article ,
says...

In article , says...

On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.



Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.
Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,
teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be
targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,
and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow
the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it
would improve the quality of the gene pool.

Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?

Cite that.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:


A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in
the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the
risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk
of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of
homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the
hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.

http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm

Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot
of the problem.

My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership
than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being
made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that
conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.

The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted
gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have
guns.

This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

What would you call the incident at the Washington Navy Yard if not a mass murder?

So it's a mass murder, what does that have to do with JPS's assertion
that there's not so many?

On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Mass murder makes the news but as a real contribution to death counts
it is a very small number.


Oh, well, then...mass murder with firearms is OK.

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.
And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."
That's all NRA and gun nut BS.

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

And bikies too. Guess that's their version of gangbangers.
Hey, anybody can find out what's going on in Australia.
Ever hear of the internet?
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...ring-down-the-
barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325

Australians still kill one another with guns. Violent culture.
Australia has higher assault, rape and burglary rates than the U.S.
Folks in the U.S. appear to be kinder and more law-abiding than Aussies.
Sure, the U.S. gun homicide rate is 4 times greater.
But the U.S. has the NRA and gun nuts who worship guns.
That's what probably accounts for the high U.S. gun homicide rate.
The NRA and gun nuts fighting to make guns available for everyone, and
boosting gun ownership.
It'a mostly PR. They sold a lot of Pet Rocks and Swatches too.
The NRA wants criminals and nut cases to have guns too.
That's why they don't want background checks for all gun sales, or gun
registration. The criminal market is a big piece of gun profits.
Nasty business. Kind of reminds me of the cigarette business.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:20:24 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 9/19/2013 9:13 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:20:27 UTC-3, BAR wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/19/13 3:23 AM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:52:50 -0700, jps wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:02 -0400, John H

wrote:



On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:41:51 -0700, jps wrote:





A study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in

the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the

risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk

of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of

homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the

hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.



http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm



Tell all your liberal buddies to get rid of their guns, and not to buy any more. That'll solve a lot

of the problem.



My liberal buddies comprise a much smaller percentage of gun ownership

than your conservative buddies. It just furthers the argument (being

made very well by so many in the conservative quarter) that

conservatives hold women in low regard, including their wives.



The numbers don't lie. More women die from both self-inflicted

gunshots and are murdered at a higher rate in households that have

guns.



This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and

their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline

at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.



http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png



There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after

the guns were gone.



With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they

banned assault style weapons.



There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just

not so many mass murders.







Obviously our 'Merican mass shooters are going after the wrong targets.

Instead of shooting kids, ordinary people at a shopping center,

teachers, and workers at a government facility, they ought to be

targeting only right-wing tea baggers, politicized members of the NRA,

and the other dregs of society. That won't lessen gun violence or allow

the passage of more reasonable background checks, of course, but it

would improve the quality of the gene pool.



Aren't all of the recent mass shooting perpetrators registered Democrats?


More likely ex-military gun nuts.


Your brain appears to be on an extended sabbatical.

To be pleasing to Harry, Don has to be down on the military.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:31:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:23:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:41:39 -0400, wrote:


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

With the exception that they haven't had a mass murder since they
banned assault style weapons.

There's just as many guns, and there's still plenty of murder, just
not so many mass murders.

Mass murder makes the news but as a real contribution to death counts
it is a very small number.


Oh, well, then...mass murder with firearms is OK.

Only in Chicago.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:57 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


This still brings me back to Australia. They virtually banned guns and
their homicide rate, that was already declining, continued to decline
at the same rate. It is virtually a straight line when averaged out.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/...iciderate2.png


Why do you keep that old link? It's laughable.
And what's this crazy talk about guns being "virtually banned?"
Never happened. Aussie gun ownership is about the same as before your
so-called "ban."
That's all NRA and gun nut BS.

There like here, most are acquaintance murders. Will found a way after
the guns were gone.

And bikies too. Guess that's their version of gangbangers.
Hey, anybody can find out what's going on in Australia.
Ever hear of the internet?
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...ring-down-the-
barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325

Australians still kill one another with guns. Violent culture.
Australia has higher assault, rape and burglary rates than the U.S.
Folks in the U.S. appear to be kinder and more law-abiding than Aussies.
Sure, the U.S. gun homicide rate is 4 times greater.
But the U.S. has the NRA and gun nuts who worship guns.
That's what probably accounts for the high U.S. gun homicide rate.
The NRA and gun nuts fighting to make guns available for everyone, and
boosting gun ownership.
It'a mostly PR. They sold a lot of Pet Rocks and Swatches too.
The NRA wants criminals and nut cases to have guns too.
That's why they don't want background checks for all gun sales, or gun
registration. The criminal market is a big piece of gun profits.
Nasty business. Kind of reminds me of the cigarette business.

You do tend to make up a lot of ****, don't you?
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!