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John H wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 1:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:26:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I remember a sociology class in college (one of those many liberal art
courses) in which a fellow student said that if Jews hated Christians
the way Christians hated Jews, Doctors Salk and Sabin would have figured
out a way to withhold their anti-polio vaccine from Gentiles. But, of
course, Salk and Sabin didn't do that. Good businessman that Salk was
(Jewish, you know), he didn't patent his vaccine.

===

Saying that Christians hate Jews is just as much of a sterotype as
saying that all Jews are good business people, and just as offensive
if not more so.


Yes, well, I was discussing a period in the United States in the 1950s
and early 1960s, when there was plenty of overt discrimination against
Jews in the United States. Your boy Nixon was a raving anti-Semite. And
those Christian Southern Strategy Republicans? Ever hear a meeting of
them talking about blacks and Jews? I have.

And there is plenty of historical data indicating Christian hatred of
Jews in this country and, of course, in Europe throughout the centuries.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg has spoken publicly about the antisemitism she
faced, as has Bernard Marcus, one of the founders of Home Depot.

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

To say Christians hate Jews is the same as saying Whites hate Blacks.
There may be some Christians
who hate Jews, just as there are some Whites who hate Blacks.

Do *you* hate Blacks? If not, your stereotyping sucks.

FDR would not bomb any of the railroads to the death camps. That bastion
of Democrat's Joe Kennedy was extremely antisemetic.

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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

===

Regardless, it is still a repugnant stereotype.

It could be the self loathing Arabs, who are actually semitic people too.

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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

Black people

Ask Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Rev Wright.

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John H wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 1:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:26:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I remember a sociology class in college (one of those many liberal art
courses) in which a fellow student said that if Jews hated Christians
the way Christians hated Jews, Doctors Salk and Sabin would have figured
out a way to withhold their anti-polio vaccine from Gentiles. But, of
course, Salk and Sabin didn't do that. Good businessman that Salk was
(Jewish, you know), he didn't patent his vaccine.

===

Saying that Christians hate Jews is just as much of a sterotype as
saying that all Jews are good business people, and just as offensive
if not more so.


Yes, well, I was discussing a period in the United States in the 1950s
and early 1960s, when there was plenty of overt discrimination against
Jews in the United States. Your boy Nixon was a raving anti-Semite. And
those Christian Southern Strategy Republicans? Ever hear a meeting of
them talking about blacks and Jews? I have.

And there is plenty of historical data indicating Christian hatred of
Jews in this country and, of course, in Europe throughout the centuries.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg has spoken publicly about the antisemitism she
faced, as has Bernard Marcus, one of the founders of Home Depot.

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

To say Christians hate Jews is the same as saying Whites hate Blacks.
There may be some Christians
who hate Jews, just as there are some Whites who hate Blacks.

Do *you* hate Blacks? If not, your stereotyping sucks.

FDR would not bomb any of the railroads to the death camps. That bastion
of Democrat's Joe Kennedy was extremely antisemetic.

I don't understand the fascination or glorification of the Kennedy's. They have done nothing
but leave death and tragedy in their wake.

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On 9/19/13 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:08:04 -0400, BAR wrote:


I don't understand the fascination or glorification of the Kennedy's. They have done nothing
but leave death and tragedy in their wake.

I agree JFKs only real claim to fame was being shot and the other two
were criminals.
We always hear how popular he was but he was on his way to losing the
64 election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying
to recover the southern democratic base that he had lost.
LBJ couldn't even hold the old south.



Excuse me while I giggle.

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On 9/19/2013 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:26:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 9:07 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:34:33 -0400, wrote:

Nobody ever explained to me why saying Jewish people were good
businessmen was a slur.

I bet the Jewish guys were laughing the hardest.

===

It has become politically and culturally incorrect to make
generalizations about any group of people even if there is strong
statistical evidence to back up the assertion.

Of course as we have seen, there are exceptions to every rule.



So, Gregg, do you think "Jewish people" are good businesspeople because
there is something inherent in the Jewish religion that genetically
encodes them to be that way, even though religion is cultural?

It is cultural.
Most of the cultural factors are positive
Education
Low alcohol and drug use
Responsibility
Family structure
Community networks
Tradition.

Yeah that is a horrible thing to point out.


....the structure of the Catholic Church and the laws governing banking
back in, well, I don't know how far it goes back.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

===

Regardless, it is still a repugnant stereotype.

Funny how that Harry is so adamant about Christianity being just another
far-fetched fairy tale (to which I agree about it being) but doesn't
seem to say the same about Judaism.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 1:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:26:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I remember a sociology class in college (one of those many liberal art
courses) in which a fellow student said that if Jews hated Christians
the way Christians hated Jews, Doctors Salk and Sabin would have figured
out a way to withhold their anti-polio vaccine from Gentiles. But, of
course, Salk and Sabin didn't do that. Good businessman that Salk was
(Jewish, you know), he didn't patent his vaccine.

===

Saying that Christians hate Jews is just as much of a sterotype as
saying that all Jews are good business people, and just as offensive
if not more so.


Yes, well, I was discussing a period in the United States in the 1950s
and early 1960s, when there was plenty of overt discrimination against
Jews in the United States. Your boy Nixon was a raving anti-Semite. And
those Christian Southern Strategy Republicans? Ever hear a meeting of
them talking about blacks and Jews? I have.

And there is plenty of historical data indicating Christian hatred of
Jews in this country and, of course, in Europe throughout the centuries.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg has spoken publicly about the antisemitism she
faced, as has Bernard Marcus, one of the founders of Home Depot.

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

To say Christians hate Jews is the same as saying Whites hate Blacks. There may be some Christians
who hate Jews, just as there are some Whites who hate Blacks.

Do *you* hate Blacks? If not, your stereotyping sucks.

Why are you being so anti-social?

It never ends...
 

In article ,
says...

In article , says...

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:59:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Who do you think the antisemites are in this country, if not mostly
Christians?

Black people

Ask Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Rev Wright.

Cite?

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In article ,
says...

On 9/19/2013 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:26:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/19/13 9:07 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:34:33 -0400, wrote:

Nobody ever explained to me why saying Jewish people were good
businessmen was a slur.

I bet the Jewish guys were laughing the hardest.

===

It has become politically and culturally incorrect to make
generalizations about any group of people even if there is strong
statistical evidence to back up the assertion.

Of course as we have seen, there are exceptions to every rule.



So, Gregg, do you think "Jewish people" are good businesspeople because
there is something inherent in the Jewish religion that genetically
encodes them to be that way, even though religion is cultural?

It is cultural.
Most of the cultural factors are positive
Education
Low alcohol and drug use
Responsibility
Family structure
Community networks
Tradition.

Yeah that is a horrible thing to point out.


...the structure of the Catholic Church and the laws governing banking
back in, well, I don't know how far it goes back.

Are you trying to say something? What IS it? Your jawbone giving you
trouble again?