On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

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On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?

On 9/14/13 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?



I have a colleague who recently got a Samsung S something or other...3?
4? Whatever, it's a brand new model. So I got to play with it for about
15 minutes. I didn't notice any significant features that were "better"
than any of the ones I use on my iPhone. The apps were a little
different, but they basically did the same thing. The screen was bigger,
and the spec sheet said the camera had more megapixels, neither of which
make much difference to me, since I rarely use my smartphone camera. The
phone seemed "too tall" for me. I assume Samsung is a leading Android
phone maker.

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says...

On 9/14/13 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?



I have a colleague who recently got a Samsung S something or other...3?
4? Whatever, it's a brand new model. So I got to play with it for about
15 minutes. I didn't notice any significant features that were "better"
than any of the ones I use on my iPhone. The apps were a little
different, but they basically did the same thing. The screen was bigger,
and the spec sheet said the camera had more megapixels, neither of which
make much difference to me, since I rarely use my smartphone camera. The
phone seemed "too tall" for me. I assume Samsung is a leading Android
phone maker.

http://tinyurl.com/8wgyne7
http://tinyurl.com/angb52g
http://tinyurl.com/m6joadq
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416498,00.asp

On 9/14/13 1:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On 9/14/13 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?



I have a colleague who recently got a Samsung S something or other...3?
4? Whatever, it's a brand new model. So I got to play with it for about
15 minutes. I didn't notice any significant features that were "better"
than any of the ones I use on my iPhone. The apps were a little
different, but they basically did the same thing. The screen was bigger,
and the spec sheet said the camera had more megapixels, neither of which
make much difference to me, since I rarely use my smartphone camera. The
phone seemed "too tall" for me. I assume Samsung is a leading Android
phone maker.

http://tinyurl.com/8wgyne7
http://tinyurl.com/angb52g
http://tinyurl.com/m6joadq
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416498,00.asp


I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

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On 9/14/13 1:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?



I have a colleague who recently got a Samsung S something or other...3?
4? Whatever, it's a brand new model. So I got to play with it for about
15 minutes. I didn't notice any significant features that were "better"
than any of the ones I use on my iPhone. The apps were a little
different, but they basically did the same thing. The screen was bigger,
and the spec sheet said the camera had more megapixels, neither of which
make much difference to me, since I rarely use my smartphone camera. The
phone seemed "too tall" for me. I assume Samsung is a leading Android
phone maker.

http://tinyurl.com/8wgyne7
http://tinyurl.com/angb52g
http://tinyurl.com/m6joadq
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416498,00.asp


I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

It matters not what differences they have to YOU. *I* said that Android
passed iPhones awhile back and iPhone is playing catch up, to which you
replied "that's just silly." It's not, it's true.

On 9/14/13 2:36 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 1:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Apple announced two "new" iPhones this week, the 5s and the 5c.

The 5s has a 64-bit processor, an improved camera, and a security turn
on switch that reads your fingerprint. Not enough, probably, for most
owners of the *5* to upgrade. The other new phone is the 5c, which
basically is the current model 5 in a less expensive case.

The latest upgrade to the operating system, IOS 7, gets released to the
public next week. It has a slew of upgrades and improvements, some
major, some minor, and it is to be distributed for free. In fact, it
already is available widely as a "bootlegged" general release. I like
the new Control Center and a few more features. Some parts of it look a
lot different, and will take some getting used to...

iPhones are outdated. Android passed them awhile back and they are
trying to play catch-up.


That's just silly.

How so?



I have a colleague who recently got a Samsung S something or other...3?
4? Whatever, it's a brand new model. So I got to play with it for about
15 minutes. I didn't notice any significant features that were "better"
than any of the ones I use on my iPhone. The apps were a little
different, but they basically did the same thing. The screen was bigger,
and the spec sheet said the camera had more megapixels, neither of which
make much difference to me, since I rarely use my smartphone camera. The
phone seemed "too tall" for me. I assume Samsung is a leading Android
phone maker.

http://tinyurl.com/8wgyne7
http://tinyurl.com/angb52g
http://tinyurl.com/m6joadq
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416498,00.asp


I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

It matters not what differences they have to YOU. *I* said that Android
passed iPhones awhile back and iPhone is playing catch up, to which you
replied "that's just silly." It's not, it's true.



It's all a matter of what's important to the user.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

-----------------------------

As a casual and basically disinterested bystander in the cell
phone/smart phone thing, I've come the opinion that Apple has done a
superb marketing job on their products, with a following who can't
live without having the latest and greatest , either in phone models
or ever changing operating systems.

Seems to me that most of the hype is about new gimmicks and apps that
are initially fun to use but quickly fade into programs using memory
that you rarely use.

On 9/14/2013 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

-----------------------------

As a casual and basically disinterested bystander in the cell
phone/smart phone thing, I've come the opinion that Apple has done a
superb marketing job on their products, with a following who can't live
without having the latest and greatest , either in phone models or ever
changing operating systems.

Seems to me that most of the hype is about new gimmicks and apps that
are initially fun to use but quickly fade into programs using memory
that you rarely use.

Exactly.. My wife loves her IPhone but when we are on the road and want
real info, quick... it's my Samsung that I push the button and get it
done.. No fancy voice talking back (unless I want it), just an
outstanding tool for anybody who leaves the house.... Some of the apps I
actually use are Weatherbug for two click live weather maps. Bar code
reader, for info and shopping. Email, the schedule and alarm, and a
battery saver. I also use the Square Register program and plug in device
to run credit cards and take payments with my phone on the fly. Most
apps I use came stock on the phone with the stock op system...

A couple weeks back I pushed the button and said "navigate to nearest
pizza", and three minutes later we were there...

On 9/14/13 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I'm aware of many of those differences. Very few have any significance
or importance for me. As I stated, I tried out a new Samsung. Nice
phone, but nothing to make me consider switching.

-----------------------------

As a casual and basically disinterested bystander in the cell
phone/smart phone thing, I've come the opinion that Apple has done a
superb marketing job on their products, with a following who can't live
without having the latest and greatest , either in phone models or ever
changing operating systems.

Seems to me that most of the hype is about new gimmicks and apps that
are initially fun to use but quickly fade into programs using memory
that you rarely use.

I like the apple products, but I don't use that many applications or
features on my iPhone, and the improvements I want no cell phone maker
is offering. I've got an iPhone 5 and I don't think I will upgrade to
the iPhone 5S that was just announced. But my wife has an iPhone 4S and
she might be interested in an upgrade. She can trade in or sell her
phone and get the 5S for just about nothing out of pocket.