"Tim" wrote in message
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On Monday, September 9, 2013 7:19:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Sorry, Tim, but I was never drafted and signing up just encourages
militarism.

Hmm, I wasn't either.
Really? I thought it was enlisting to defend your country.


Beside, I thought getting an education and starting a career
were more important than killing SE Asians who posed no threat to
the United States.

Not everyone who served during the 'Vietnam Era' went to Vietnam,
Harry.
The Soviet Union was a real threat, though.

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Harry sometimes strikes me as a charter member of the "me, me, me"
generation, even though he was born and grew up before it really
became a prevalent philosophy. It is evidenced by his comment,
"Besides, I thought getting an education and starting a career were
more important ....".

Many of us grew up in roughly the same time period but were influenced
by a broader range of values and mores. In those days devoting a
couple of years of your life to military service or finding other ways
to serve your country for a short period of time was an honorable
thing to do. It certainly wasn't for the pay or to receive a direct,
personal benefit ... the goals that influenced Harry. The concept of
Patriotism and service was more pure in those days.

When JFK introduced the concept of the Peace Corps in 1960, he
described it as an alternative way to "serve your country", an example
of the values of the time. The Peace Corps was officially
incorporated the following year and offered young people a means of
fulfilling whatever obligations they felt they had without military
service. Most who have served in the Peace Corps consider it as one
of the most meaningful experiences of their lives.

None of this is meant to say that everyone should feel a need to serve
their country or serve in the military. It's a personal thing, based
on how you were raised and influenced. However, the need for a
military exists in every generation and those who choose to serve (or
those who were called upon to serve and did) ... should not be
vilified in the manner that Harry engages in. This is the thing about
Harry's attitude that ****es me off sometimes.

Ironically, those who serve in the military, be it for only 2 years,
4 years, (9 years active duty and two reserve for me), or made it a
career, almost all realize later in life that the experience broadened
their lives and they likely received more personal benefit from the
experience than they gave.

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:59:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Monday, September 9, 2013 7:19:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/9/13 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, September 9, 2013 5:48:24 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote:



...other fellow veterans.







I especially appreciate #11







http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing















Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us



since the end of World War II, eh?



Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint.





Sorry, Tim, but I was never drafted

Hmm, I wasn't either.

and signing up just encourages militarism.

Really? I thought it was enlisting to defend your country.

Beside, I thought getting an education and starting a career
were more important than killing SE Asians who posed no threat to the United States.

Not everyone who served during the 'Vietnam Era' went to Vietnam, Harry.

The Soviet Union was a real threat, though.

Speaking of... I had a cousin who was stationed in Germany and his job was to keep an eye on Brezhnev and the Roo-ski's. Another found himself in Hawaii, spookin' on Che Mong Shin[sp?], and Chairman Mao.

Oh yeah. in the late 60's, the cousin in Hawaii, well... his brother-in-law served on the U.S.S Skate. They served with pride and not a one of them touched shore inSE Asia.



We spent a lot of time in Germany practicing a defense for a Soviet attack through the Fulda Gap.
Took it pretty seriously too.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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Hope you're having a great day!

On Monday, September 9, 2013 10:17:56 PM UTC-5, wrote:

The Godless Communists never got past the Wilson Bridge on my watch.

(except for the ones the public elected). ;-)

"THEY DID NOT PASS"

On Monday, September 9, 2013 7:38:20 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

Harry, you should have taken advantage of it while you could have. I enjoyed my stint.

Harry is a proven coward. Unwilling to greet someone at his front door.

You know....Criminals like Krause like to hide due to the number of people he's ****ed out of money already.

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On 9/8/13 10:42 PM, Tim wrote:
...other fellow veterans.

I especially appreciate #11

http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing



Yeah, because U.S. military adventurism has turned out so well for us
since the end of World War II, eh?

You must have missed everything that happened just a couple of decades before and a few
decades after the Civil War. Then there were the banana republic wars.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

...other fellow veterans.

I especially appreciate #11

http://www.upworthy.com/hahaha-so-tr...red-of-hearing

Love 'em all, but #11 is a true winner.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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Hope you're having a great day!