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Greg, speaking of following the money...
Dropped my iMac off at the apple store today, and the checkover and
preauthorized repair data generated the following: Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Hard drive not mounting Steps to Reproduce: Verified at bar, machine qualifies for HARD DRIVE repair program for seagate Proposed Resolution: Replace hard drive under quality program Cosmetic Condition of iMac: Great no apparent damage Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you in 3 - 5 days Mac OS Version: 10.8.4 Hard Drive Size: 1000 GB Memory Size: 8 GB iLife Version: n/a Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-5520 Hard Drive, 1TB, 3.5", 7200, SATA $ 226.14 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 265.14 $ 0.00 Apple prices the retail of that drive at three times what you can buy a similar one from just about anyone, but certainly lowballs the labor charge, since it is a pain in the ass to open up an iMac sans the proper tools, knowledge and guts. (all glass on the front, et cetera) I would have guessed $125 on the drive and $125 labor. Anyway, they were out of the drives, but more were scheduled to come in today or monday, so I left the computer there. No cost to me because of "quality" program. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 15:49:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
Dropped my iMac off at the apple store today, and the checkover and preauthorized repair data generated the following: Problem Description/Diagnosis Issue: Hard drive not mounting Steps to Reproduce: Verified at bar, machine qualifies for HARD DRIVE repair program for seagate Proposed Resolution: Replace hard drive under quality program Cosmetic Condition of iMac: Great no apparent damage Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you in 3 - 5 days Mac OS Version: 10.8.4 Hard Drive Size: 1000 GB Memory Size: 8 GB iLife Version: n/a Repair Estimate Item Number Description Price Amount Due 661-5520 Hard Drive, 1TB, 3.5", 7200, SATA $ 226.14 $ 0.00 S1490LL/A Hardware Repair Labor $ 39.00 $ 0.00 Total (Tax not included) $ 265.14 $ 0.00 Apple prices the retail of that drive at three times what you can buy a similar one from just about anyone, but certainly lowballs the labor charge, since it is a pain in the ass to open up an iMac sans the proper tools, knowledge and guts. (all glass on the front, et cetera) I would have guessed $125 on the drive and $125 labor. Anyway, they were out of the drives, but more were scheduled to come in today or monday, so I left the computer there. No cost to me because of "quality" program. So your Mac blew a hard drive. What's to brag about? I've never had a computer blow a hard drive. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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Greg, speaking of following the money...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I'd guess drive failures are the most common problems on computers. ------------------------------------ With "Cloud" storage and solid state memory like high density SDXC cards, disk drives are probably going to join the ranks of the obsolete. Lexan just introduced a 256Gb card and Sandisk has developed one which makes it possible to manufacture cards with storage capacity up to 2 terabytes. I don't use more than 25 percent of the hard drive capacities on either of my laptops. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On 9/6/13 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I'd guess drive failures are the most common problems on computers. ------------------------------------ With "Cloud" storage and solid state memory like high density SDXC cards, disk drives are probably going to join the ranks of the obsolete. Lexan just introduced a 256Gb card and Sandisk has developed one which makes it possible to manufacture cards with storage capacity up to 2 terabytes. I don't use more than 25 percent of the hard drive capacities on either of my laptops. I have a mini SDXC card in my laptop...it's no bigger than a little finger nail and it has a 64 GB capacity. These external solid state drives, though, are still slow because they use a USB like interface. The SSD in the laptop, however, seems faster than greased lightning. You're right, of course, the handwriting is on the wall for spinning drives. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/6/13 5:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... I'd guess drive failures are the most common problems on computers. ------------------------------------ With "Cloud" storage and solid state memory like high density SDXC cards, disk drives are probably going to join the ranks of the obsolete. Lexan just introduced a 256Gb card and Sandisk has developed one which makes it possible to manufacture cards with storage capacity up to 2 terabytes. I don't use more than 25 percent of the hard drive capacities on either of my laptops. I have a mini SDXC card in my laptop...it's no bigger than a little finger nail and it has a 64 GB capacity. These external solid state drives, though, are still slow because they use a USB like interface. The SSD in the laptop, however, seems faster than greased lightning. You're right, of course, the handwriting is on the wall for spinning drives. --------------------------- Another one for the scrap book. Back in the mid 80's the company I was working for at the time designed and built a vacuum deposition system for Seagate that deposited the magnetic storage media on the disks. They were physically huge back then and certainly not the high density of the drives available today. We also built another system for a subsidy of Alcoa who were getting into making the storage disks. This was all early in the game. The Alcoa system required an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity to the disk to prevent crashes due to the head hitting the drive. All obsolete now. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. === Great suuccess story, thanks for sharing. It's always nice to see honesty and hard work pay off in the end. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Friday, September 6, 2013 7:42:42 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. === Great suuccess story, thanks for sharing. It's always nice to see honesty and hard work pay off in the end. I agree. The company I work for is a family owned business that I started with over 30 years ago. Their success story is similar... winning contracts with large entities that just wanted someone to partner with to get the job done. We've been very successful in doing that over the years, but it's coming to an end. We're now hooked up with some very large companies that we are integrating to, and the large direct sell companies that we've been doing business with are changing as well. The bigger and more sucessful you are, the less fun it is. Among other things, this country was built on the small business men who did the very things that our company does (or did). The excessive regulations that are now in place stifle that free enterprise. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Friday, September 6, 2013 4:01:52 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
So your Mac blew a hard drive. What's to brag about? I've never had a computer blow a hard drive. It just COULDN'T take any more Krause **** lies...it " imploded".. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Friday, September 6, 2013 7:28:13 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. ............ what a whole lot of **** ALL !!!!! ......................... |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On 9/6/13 7:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Thank goodness you went to Amity Regional! :) Got an email that came in after 11 pm last night from Apple...my iMac is ready to be picked up. One of the reasons why I like Apple is that the company from a customer point of view is run the way companies used to be run...on the basis of good service and keeping customers happy. Naturally, there are times when Apple fails but for the most part, it has done well by me. Yes, that service is reflected in its prices...as well it should be. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On 9/7/2013 7:22 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/6/13 7:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Thank goodness you went to Amity Regional! :) Got an email that came in after 11 pm last night from Apple...my iMac is ready to be picked up. One of the reasons why I like Apple is that the company from a customer point of view is run the way companies used to be run...on the basis of good service and keeping customers happy. Naturally, there are times when Apple fails but for the most part, it has done well by me. Yes, that service is reflected in its prices...as well it should be. We don't need to know every time you or one of your toys hiccups. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Got an email that came in after 11 pm last night from Apple...my iMac is ready to be picked up. One of the reasons why I like Apple is that the company from a customer point of view is run the way companies used to be run...on the basis of good service and keeping customers happy. Naturally, there are times when Apple fails but for the most part, it has done well by me. Yes, that service is reflected in its prices...as well it should be. ---------------------------------- My daughter works in a dentist's office and she inherited one of those 27" iMac systems (the ones with the computer guts built into the display) when the office updated their equipment. Mrs.E. saw it and has been "hinting" around .. i.e. birthday, Christmas, anniversary, full moon, whatever ... about how much she likes it and wants one. The only concern I have is I know nothing about Macs having used PCs all my life and since I am the resident IT department in our house, I really don't want to get involved with maintaining and upgrading a computer system that I am not familiar with or use. I really am not into computers that much. |
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On 9/7/2013 8:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Got an email that came in after 11 pm last night from Apple...my iMac is ready to be picked up. One of the reasons why I like Apple is that the company from a customer point of view is run the way companies used to be run...on the basis of good service and keeping customers happy. Naturally, there are times when Apple fails but for the most part, it has done well by me. Yes, that service is reflected in its prices...as well it should be. ---------------------------------- My daughter works in a dentist's office and she inherited one of those 27" iMac systems (the ones with the computer guts built into the display) when the office updated their equipment. Mrs.E. saw it and has been "hinting" around .. i.e. birthday, Christmas, anniversary, full moon, whatever ... about how much she likes it and wants one. The only concern I have is I know nothing about Macs having used PCs all my life and since I am the resident IT department in our house, I really don't want to get involved with maintaining and upgrading a computer system that I am not familiar with or use. I really am not into computers that much. If it hiccups then just carry it in to your neighborhood Apple store. The friendly folks there will bend over backwards and jump through hoops to cure it's hiccups, or so we've been led to believe. |
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On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Great story, but I didn't see how union involvement helped in any way. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/7/2013 9:24 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Great story, but I didn't see how union involvement helped in any way. John (Gun Nut) H. Some folks can stand on their own two feet make it through life without union help. |
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 09:50:17 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 9/7/2013 9:24 AM, John H wrote: On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Great story, but I didn't see how union involvement helped in any way. John (Gun Nut) H. Some folks can stand on their own two feet make it through life without union help. Amen. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Great story, but I didn't see how union involvement helped in any way. John (Gun Nut) H. ------------------------------ Oh, a union electrician was involved but he certainly didn't help. The facility administrators, being good do-bees, hired union contractors to install all the power wiring required in the lab where the system we built was installed. Without going into boring details, our system included a very large isolation transformer to power radiant heaters located inside the vacuum chamber. Without the transformer, the heaters would arc at certain vacuum levels and they are commonly used in the industry for this purpose. The transformers used are over-rated for the heater power requirements, so at full load they are operating at 75 percent of their rated capacity. The problem with them is that they get very hot in normal operation. The one we used with this particular system had a temperature rise rating of 150 degrees C (above ambient, room temperature). In our system it measured 118 degrees at full power. That is well within normal operation. The system was being run one day, developing the optical coatings required for the program. A union electrician was in the lab installing some unrelated wiring and noticed that the transformer was hot. He made a big stink about it and reported it to whomever he reports to. Next thing you know, I received a call requesting that I visit the lab immediately. I drove to Rochester and met with the project leader. I explained that the temperature rise was normal and well within the specs for the transformer. He knew that but said that because the union electrician had filed a report, the Director of the lab (the big guy) wanted to talk to me about it. The Director was a retired Navy nuclear sub commander and was referred to as "The Captain". He was a gruff SOB and still liked to bark out orders. He started the meeting by telling me that they were under a severe scheduling commitment, needed to use the vacuum system and he wanted it fixed, "NOW". I explained to him that there was nothing wrong with it. It was normal operation and showed him the spec sheets for the transformer. At first he claimed that the electrician who reported it said it wasn't normal and we got into a bit of a debate about it. He finally calmed down after seeing the specs but it became obvious that this was now more of a political issue with the city inspector and all getting involved. He asked me to "megger" the transformer (this is a process of applying high voltage to the transformer windings to test the insulation) and also for additional copies of the manufacturer's spec sheets, which I did while he conducted further investigation. He told me I was to remain "on site" until the matter was resolved. Well, I was in the Navy for 9 years but I wasn't about to take orders from this guy as a civilian. I told him (politely) that the transformer was fine, it met all electrical code specs in terms of ratings. The application was unique due to the system's process requirements but similar transformers were in operation in many other systems and I was leaving in the morning. I also told him that since he felt obligated to pursue it further with his contractors due to their alleged safety concern, I felt obligated to disable the control system so the system could not be used until he was satisfied everything was ok. That did it. He left, then came back a half hour later and apologized for the wild goose chase and told me he was satisfied the system was safe to operate. By now it was 6pm and he invited the project engineer, me and some of the lab techs to go have dinner and a couple of beers. Turns out he was a decent guy and we shared a few "sea tales". The problem that exists in this kind of technology is that the National Electric Code doesn't cover many of the unique configurations required for the design and operation of custom equipment like this. Just because it's not covered in the Code Book doesn't mean you can't do it. The requirements of the system and process supersedes the Codes if they are in conflict. The union electrician, unfamiliar with the equipment, jumped to conclusions and made a stink about nothing. He just reads the book. |
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On 9/7/13 8:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Got an email that came in after 11 pm last night from Apple...my iMac is ready to be picked up. One of the reasons why I like Apple is that the company from a customer point of view is run the way companies used to be run...on the basis of good service and keeping customers happy. Naturally, there are times when Apple fails but for the most part, it has done well by me. Yes, that service is reflected in its prices...as well it should be. ---------------------------------- My daughter works in a dentist's office and she inherited one of those 27" iMac systems (the ones with the computer guts built into the display) when the office updated their equipment. Mrs.E. saw it and has been "hinting" around .. i.e. birthday, Christmas, anniversary, full moon, whatever ... about how much she likes it and wants one. The only concern I have is I know nothing about Macs having used PCs all my life and since I am the resident IT department in our house, I really don't want to get involved with maintaining and upgrading a computer system that I am not familiar with or use. I really am not into computers that much. Just buy AppleCare when you buy the iMac (new iMacs supposedly are coming out in the next couple of months). There's a wide range of free classes plus first-rate phone help from English speaking techs who have no attitude. Most bigtime software works the same on a Mac as it does on windows, plus there are easy ways to run existing windows software on a mac. It takes about two weeks for an experienced windows user to get used to the differences in the mac operating system. You and your wife will have the usual couple of days of frustration, and then you'll see how easy it is to use a MAc |
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On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. |
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On 9/7/13 4:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. Also have a 17KW generator and a buried 500 gallon LP gas tank. :) |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. Also have a 17KW generator and a buried 500 gallon LP gas tank. :) -------------------------- Ah .... a "prepper" huh? |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
In article , "The Judge" says...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. Also have a 17KW generator and a buried 500 gallon LP gas tank. :) -------------------------- Ah .... a "prepper" huh? If he was a real prepper he would use gasoline or diesel, fuel you can easily obtain. If I had a generator at this house I currently own it would run on natural gas. |
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John H wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:28:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/6/13 5:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: an amorphous hard carbon coating as well that protected and added lubricity Does Mrs. Luddite know you talk like that? :) -------------------------- She probably typed the technical proposal. We didn't have computers or word processors then so they were all written in longhand on legal pads. I'd do the electrical. process and control sections and another guy did the writing for the mechanical hardware. I'd utilize the original "cut and paste" method for all the boilerplate sections. Then they went to Mrs.E. and another typist and typed up on IBM Selectric typewriters that had that rotating font ball. That's when I got in the habit of getting up at about 2 am when Mrs. E. and the mud rats (kids) were sleeping and I'd make a pot of coffee, sit down at my desk and start writing. I could finish my part of a 40-50 page technical proposal by 8 or 9 am if it was similar to something we had built before. Here's a long winded story. Delete and skip if you're not interested but it was quite a big deal for me back in 1990: The longest proposal .... and the one that took the most time .... was for a unique, large system for the Laboratory for Laser Energetics at the University of Rochester. They had a huge program called "Omega" funded by the DOE and the DOD for building a laser system consisting of 60 beams that focused their energy onto a "target" the size of a piece of rice. The "official" goal at the time was to produce energy by nuclear fusion by compressing deuterium ... an abundant element found in sea water with very high powered lasers. There were also defense applications, allowing nuclear research without having to blow stuff up. I had just incorporated my company when this project came along. As "newbies" in the industry, we typically got the scraps of contracts that the big boys weren't interested in. The UofR request for technical proposals and price quotations went out world-wide to all the major manufacturers of custom vacuum deposition systems ... about 13 companies in total. We were not on the original bidder's list because we were so small and unknown at the time. A friend in another company called me and said his company was going to "no-bid" the project and asked me if I wanted the technical specifications to look at. I said, "sure" ... and then called the UofR purchasing department to see if they would accept a proposal and quotation from us. He welcomed all comers, and said yes. I had absolutely no allusions that we would ever get the contract, but I figured it was an opportunity to submit a strong technical proposal, get our name out there, and maybe get on the bidder's list for future, smaller contracts. With that in mind, I suggested to Mrs. E. that she take the kids on a vacation to Disneyworld with some friends and I spent over a week researching the requirements and writing the best proposal I could. It was submitted and I basically put it out of my mind and concentrated on getting contracts that were more realistic for the size of the company. About 3 months later we received notice that a more detailed specification was being forwarded to a small group of the original bidders. We had 48 hours to respond to it. When I reviewed the new spec, I realized that they had now included some specific process criteria that the successful bidder would be obligated to achieve. Now I was getting a little nervous. I read the requirements and felt that some were beyond current state of the art and were probably not achievable. After much thought, I called the assistant to the project leader at the UofR and respectfully withdrew our bid. He thanked me for the time and effort and said he'd forward my withdrawal to the program leader. A half hour later, the project leader called. He wanted to know why I withdrew our bid. I explained that there were two parts of the process (had to do with the uniformity of coating over a very large optic) that I did not feel was possible to achieve. He wanted to know why and we talked a bit about this. He then told me that he knew they weren't achievable and that we were the only company out of three that made the final "cut" that took exception to that part of the spec. He *strongly* encouraged me to send a revised proposal taking exceptions to any part of the spec that I didn't feel comfortable with. He then told me that our price had "plenty of room" for adjustment and told me to make sure I was comfortable with it. So, I did as he instructed ... took exceptions a couple of the spec's requirements and added another $100k to the price for "insurance". Two weeks later I received a call from one of the other companies that had bid, offering congratulations. "About what?" I asked. "You don't know? ... You won the UofR project". I called the project leader and he confirmed it. He asked to keep it quiet for a couple of days because they were contacting and thanking all the other bidders before making a formal announcement. That project was a huge success, both for us and the UofR and it put my little company on the "map" so to speak. Good memories. Great story, but I didn't see how union involvement helped in any way. John (Gun Nut) H. They unloaded the Chinese computers off of the truck for $75/hour. |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. Sure you do. Got your taxes and other judgement paid yet, sailor? |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/7/13 4:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. Also have a 17KW generator and a buried 500 gallon LP gas tank. :) 17Kw is small for a house the size your wife owns. A 25Kw would be the minimum. Could you be lying again? |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 16:15:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. Why not RAID them? With 4 drives you can set up a fairly high efficiency array and have a soft failure of any single drive. With some controllers you don't even need to bring the system down to swap out the bad drive. The whole thing is invisible to the OS. SATA hardware itself is hot swap capable. He can't afford to pay his taxes. Do you really think he can afford a $1500 Raid controller? |
Greg, speaking of following the money...
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 17:14:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/7/13 4:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/7/13 4:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:24:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: I bought a 2 terabyte portable drive for all of my work and financial files, etc. I also have a solid state seagate for daily backup. 2 terabytes? They could run the New York Stock Exchange with less DASD than that. ;-) We keep and use old files from several years ago. Some design files are 30 gigs or so. Add to that files from others on the design teams, plus spreadsheets, correspondence, and on and on. I have four two terabyte drives in my server, with one of those drives running a compressed backup of what is on the other three drives. I think I about two terabytes of data on the server which consists of backups of the three computers in the house, folders for archives, about 750 GB of movies, et cetera. I do nightly backups of my desktop, plus weekly backups of my wife's computer and my laptop. I also run an apple Time Machine backup of my desktop computer to a separate external one terabyte drive. ---------------------------- Pull the plug and you have nothing. Also have a 17KW generator and a buried 500 gallon LP gas tank. :) ....and a Maryland red barn, and two owls in a tree down by the creek, and a twin-diesel, Volvo powered trawler to keep up with Wayne, and a well-ridden Ducati motorcycle, and a printer from WalMart. What more could a guy want? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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