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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:21:27 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/29/2013 2:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... Well....their pickup diesel engines left something to be desired in terms of reputation. Otherwise I'd be driving a Ford diesel. John (Gun Nut) H. ----------------------- The old Powerstroke 7.2L was a reliable workhorse based on reports of people that had them. The bad rap Ford diesels received was the 6.0L replacement, and I can vouch for that. It was introduced under pressure from Ford marketing before it was fully tested and developed. The replacement for it ... the current 6.4L has a much better track record and reputation. I like diesel powered vehicles, particularly pickup trucks. I would have purchased another one back in 2008 except they had just introduced the mandated catalytic converter "burn off" systems. Sounded a little *too* crazy and new for me, so I went for a gas powered F250 instead. It serves my purposes and is now almost 6 model years old but has under 19,000 miles on it. On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. One thing I'd like to see: A diesel engine was never really designed to run over a wide range of RPMs. It was designed to run at a fixed, optimum RPM where it develops the most torque for the fuel it consumes. Diesel powered trains run at a constant RPM and the power generated is converted to electricity to run electric drive motors. I'd really be interested in how applying that concept in cars or trucks, using the newer, high efficiency diesels and electric motors available today. I have often said the same thing... Wonder how a diesel powered, electric car would do... It would probably happen under this administration if they could figure a way to make a diesel engine that would run with a 50% ethanol mixture. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Auto industry recovery
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. |
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On 8/29/13 5:50 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. Cummins has announced it will be building a 5.0 liter diesel to be used in Nissan pickup trucks. http://cumminsengines.com/cummins-5L-V8-turbo-diesel |
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Auto industry recovery
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:50:58 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. Hey, this turbo-charged 1.4L diesel in my wife's VW is a sporty little bugger. I probably couldn't outrun a Mustang GT, but it'd have to be filled up a lot more often then the VW. It has no problems merging on the interstate. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:14:15 -0400, John H
wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:50:58 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. Hey, this turbo-charged 1.4L diesel in my wife's VW is a sporty little bugger. I probably couldn't outrun a Mustang GT, but it'd have to be filled up a lot more often then the VW. It has no problems merging on the interstate. ==== The original VW Rabbit diesel was not turbo'd and it had a hard time getting out of its own way. We owned one back in the late 70s and could have sold it for more than we payed a year later when gas lines were going around the block. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:44:22 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:14:15 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:50:58 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. Hey, this turbo-charged 1.4L diesel in my wife's VW is a sporty little bugger. I probably couldn't outrun a Mustang GT, but it'd have to be filled up a lot more often then the VW. It has no problems merging on the interstate. ==== The original VW Rabbit diesel was not turbo'd and it had a hard time getting out of its own way. We owned one back in the late 70s and could have sold it for more than we payed a year later when gas lines were going around the block. My brother had one of the little VW diesel pickups back then. You're right - way underpowered. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:22:52 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 8/29/13 5:50 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On the same note, I was reading the other day that diesel power may soon become the engine of choice for a wide range of both passenger vehicles as well as trucks. The new ones are clean, very fuel efficient and make more practical sense than any of the electric hybrids currently available. === In Europe where fuel is more than twice as expensive as it is here, a high percentage of the passenger vehicles are diesel power. They are not performance slugs either like the old Volkswagon and Mercedes models. Cummins has announced it will be building a 5.0 liter diesel to be used in Nissan pickup trucks. http://cumminsengines.com/cummins-5L-V8-turbo-diesel Most European cars are running sub 2 liter diesel motors. === There are some but that's not what you see on the expressways doing 90+ mph. We had two different diesel rentals in France several years ago. One was a turbo 5 cylinder Peugot if I remember correctly and it had very decent power. The other was a VW van that was close to commercial size. It too had a substantial turbo engine and lots of pep. We were going through the French, Swiss and Italian Alps with 4 adults and a lot of luggage. It never lacked for power. |
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