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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. |
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says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? |
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On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:50:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. Never spent any time in a VA hospital, other than appointments. Perhaps a little reading comprehension would help, although I don't expect you to know much about different military hospitals. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! |
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On 8/29/13 2:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:55:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... I know you don't want to hear it, but perhaps God had a hand in its survival. John (Gun Nut) H. What "God"? The one Herring hallucinated about when he spent three months at a VA hospital getting detoxed. It usually only takes two weeks. |
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In article , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 623417046399439441.785203bmckeenospam- , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Wild fires not too many years ago just burned until they ran out of fuel. Now we have all of this money spent on containing them so that they don't burn homes and businesses. Fire should be treated just like flood waters. --------------------------- and you called *me* a luddite? :-) It is amazing that the Earth went from a whirling mass of dust to what it is today and it still exists. Wildfires serve a purpose, tides and flooding serve a purpose. Who are we to try and stop them. Why are we trying to control the Earth instead of just inhabitinig it for the time we have and then disappearing from existence from our own devices or an extraterestial event. Wild fires in olden days were not as bad. Even the Indians started wild fires every couple years. Now we put out most little fires, until the dead falls and understory is huge, and then we have unstoppable fires. Yosemite lets natural fires inside the park burn naturally. The huge rim fire is burning in areas that have not burned in 50+ years. Near one of our favorite lakes. Cherry Lake, and probably will write off another trip there this year. Well, gee, that makes you wonder how the earth ever survived without man...... Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! They are, but planting single specie is not a healthy way to farm. |
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:16:50 -0400, BAR wrote: Before man, the natural fires cleaned out the dead stuff. Plus we had more mixed forest. Now after logging, it is single type tree being planted. Trees are a crop!!! Certainly true on a tree farm but we also need forests. I spend a lot of time in our national forests (hiking) and even the ones that allow logging, still manage the forest fairly well. You really don't see a lot of it if you are not in the Rockies and points west, all the way to the coast. They have national forests in the east but they are just "woods" compared to western forests. But in the National forests the clear cut is planted as required. But they use only one type tree. My former business partner's son and wife are forest managers for the national forests. He hydrologist and wife time sales manager. Big problem is with the tree hugger crowd. The want all logging stopped. But then a fire, and the breaks and roads the Cat cuts are really bad for erosion. Where managed forests cuts and roads are designed for erosion control. |
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