"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/18/13 11:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


If they "are all over the place," then there would be lots of sightings.
I know lots of people in this county, and none of them has ever
mentioned seeing a coyote.


The land area here is 200+ square miles, not huge, but sizeable. The
sites you provided do not indicate a large population of coyotes.

That first site you listed showed a 43 pound animal that had just been
shot to death by some moron. The article didn't say why the guy shot the
animal. What a brave white hunter he is, eh?

The last site shows an animal in a field in an adjoining county. The
animal looks more like the large foxes we have around here than a
coyote, but the photo isn't sharp enough to tell for sure.

I think you are once again leaping to unsupportable conclusions from a
paucity of facts. No one is denying we have some larger wild mammals in
Maryland, and I am sure there are some coyotes and wolves. But we
haven't seen any here, and we are prepared to see them, what with time
spent outdoors, being surrounded by wooded areas that hold a panoply of
critters, and outdoor cameras and lights.

I wouldn't mind catching and taming a coyote cub. They're pretty animals
and can be trained like dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BevRb74GVe8


I thought you were OK with shooting dogs.


Only feral dogs that travel in packs and attack people. I have made that
perfectly clear several times, LoogyScotty.

Coyotes usually do not travel in packs, nor are they known for attacking
people. Feral dogs out in the forest, on the other hand, are a bit more
than just dogs without homes provided by humans.

If I saw a coyote in the yard or outskirts and he wasn't acting as if he
had rabies, I'd simply wave and let him go about his business. I'd have
no reason to interfere with his seeking a meal or getting back to his
den. Now, if there were a pack of rabid Tea Party types in the yard, I'd
call the sheriff and animal control.

Actually coyotes attack in packs as well as singularly. Ingle dogs here
will take Fifi right off the leash of some dog walker in some areas.
Bigger dogs, etc they pack attack. Big problem in Hollywood Hills for
pets.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/18/13 11:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:25:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


If they "are all over the place," then there would be lots of sightings.
I know lots of people in this county, and none of them has ever
mentioned seeing a coyote.


The land area here is 200+ square miles, not huge, but sizeable. The
sites you provided do not indicate a large population of coyotes.

That first site you listed showed a 43 pound animal that had just been
shot to death by some moron. The article didn't say why the guy shot the
animal. What a brave white hunter he is, eh?

The last site shows an animal in a field in an adjoining county. The
animal looks more like the large foxes we have around here than a
coyote, but the photo isn't sharp enough to tell for sure.

I think you are once again leaping to unsupportable conclusions from a
paucity of facts. No one is denying we have some larger wild mammals in
Maryland, and I am sure there are some coyotes and wolves. But we
haven't seen any here, and we are prepared to see them, what with time
spent outdoors, being surrounded by wooded areas that hold a panoply of
critters, and outdoor cameras and lights.

I wouldn't mind catching and taming a coyote cub. They're pretty animals
and can be trained like dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BevRb74GVe8


I thought you were OK with shooting dogs.


Only feral dogs that travel in packs and attack people. I have made that
perfectly clear several times, LoogyScotty.

Coyotes usually do not travel in packs, nor are they known for attacking
people. Feral dogs out in the forest, on the other hand, are a bit more
than just dogs without homes provided by humans.

If I saw a coyote in the yard or outskirts and he wasn't acting as if he
had rabies, I'd simply wave and let him go about his business. I'd have
no reason to interfere with his seeking a meal or getting back to his
den. Now, if there were a pack of rabid Tea Party types in the yard, I'd
call the sheriff and animal control.

Actually coyotes attack in packs as well as singularly. Ingle dogs here
will take Fifi right off the leash of some dog walker in some areas.
Bigger dogs, etc they pack attack. Big problem in Hollywood Hills for
pets.

We had a half GSD half Coyote as our dog. My dad got it in San Diego in the early 60's. Best
damn animal ever. He was a mail and he was extremely protective of us.

On 8/18/13 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:54:48 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

l.

Actually coyotes attack in packs as well as singularly. Ingle dogs here
will take Fifi right off the leash of some dog walker in some areas.
Bigger dogs, etc they pack attack. Big problem in Hollywood Hills for
pets.

Harry is a city boy who recently moved out to the country.
Most of this stuff is foreign to him



That's just plain stupid, Loogy/Scotty.

On 8/18/13 6:48 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:48:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/18/13 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:54:48 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

l.

Actually coyotes attack in packs as well as singularly. Ingle dogs here
will take Fifi right off the leash of some dog walker in some areas.
Bigger dogs, etc they pack attack. Big problem in Hollywood Hills for
pets.

Harry is a city boy who recently moved out to the country.
Most of this stuff is foreign to him



That's just plain stupid, Loogy/Scotty.


I have heard a lot about Pizza in New Haven, the finer life in a dozen
other cities but not much "outdoors" stuff unless it was on a handicap
friendly trail within walking distance of the cruise ship or bus.

Where would you see a coyote? A bear?

I agree, unless you are sitting on the porch at 4AM on the perfect
night, probably not at your house.



Where would I have seen coyotes? I spent a lot of years out in Kansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska. They have coyotes.

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says...

On 8/18/13 6:48 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:48:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/18/13 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:54:48 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

l.

Actually coyotes attack in packs as well as singularly. Ingle dogs here
will take Fifi right off the leash of some dog walker in some areas.
Bigger dogs, etc they pack attack. Big problem in Hollywood Hills for
pets.

Harry is a city boy who recently moved out to the country.
Most of this stuff is foreign to him



That's just plain stupid, Loogy/Scotty.


I have heard a lot about Pizza in New Haven, the finer life in a dozen
other cities but not much "outdoors" stuff unless it was on a handicap
friendly trail within walking distance of the cruise ship or bus.

Where would you see a coyote? A bear?

I agree, unless you are sitting on the porch at 4AM on the perfect
night, probably not at your house.



Where would I have seen coyotes? I spent a lot of years out in Kansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska. They have coyotes.

As does every other state in the continental U.S.

On 8/19/13 2:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:22:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/18/13 6:48 PM, wrote:

Where would you see a coyote? A bear?

I agree, unless you are sitting on the porch at 4AM on the perfect
night, probably not at your house.



Where would I have seen coyotes? I spent a lot of years out in Kansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska. They have coyotes.

Kevin was pointing out coyotes are encroaching on suburban areas just
about everywhere.

I asked my niece and she says she saw them in Ridge, just down the
road from you..


Loogy was trying to point out that coyotes were in my yard or immediate
neighborhood. That's bull****.

Ridge, Maryland, is about 50 miles from here, across a wide river and in
the midst of an almost unpopulated area. It's hardly just "down the
road." It wouldn't surprise me to learn that what your niece actually
saw was a loose, small mixed breed German shepherd. I've seen any number
of those that resemble coyotes.

I'll let you know when I see an actual coyote in our back yard.

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says...

On 8/19/13 2:17 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:22:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/18/13 6:48 PM, wrote:

Where would you see a coyote? A bear?

I agree, unless you are sitting on the porch at 4AM on the perfect
night, probably not at your house.



Where would I have seen coyotes? I spent a lot of years out in Kansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska. They have coyotes.

Kevin was pointing out coyotes are encroaching on suburban areas just
about everywhere.

I asked my niece and she says she saw them in Ridge, just down the
road from you..


Loogy was trying to point out that coyotes were in my yard or immediate
neighborhood. That's bull****.

I provided data that states that coyotes are indeed in your area. You've
not provided **** otherwise.

Ridge, Maryland, is about 50 miles from here, across a wide river and in
the midst of an almost unpopulated area. It's hardly just "down the
road." It wouldn't surprise me to learn that what your niece actually
saw was a loose, small mixed breed German shepherd. I've seen any number
of those that resemble coyotes.

Right. They wouldn't be able to cross that river. They must have taken a
ferry across the Mississippi.

I'll let you know when I see an actual coyote in our back yard.

You'll never know, you don't go outside.

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says...

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:22:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/18/13 6:48 PM, wrote:

Where would you see a coyote? A bear?

I agree, unless you are sitting on the porch at 4AM on the perfect
night, probably not at your house.



Where would I have seen coyotes? I spent a lot of years out in Kansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska. They have coyotes.

Kevin was pointing out coyotes are encroaching on suburban areas just
about everywhere.

I asked my niece and she says she saw them in Ridge, just down the
road from you..

Animals do show up in strange places. I almost hit a deer on the
Whitehurst freeway in DC one night. He bailed out over the rail. I
thought about going to go down on K street and look for it but I
wasn't sure what I would do if I found it because I was not carrying.
I figure it had at least 1 broken leg. (30 feet straight down to the
concrete) and needed euthanasia. I figured a homeless guy ate it.

But Harry's enclave doesn't permit them to come there. Somehow.

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says...

Kevin was pointing out coyotes are encroaching on suburban areas just
about everywhere.


You can't prove a negative. Not too smart to say "They're not here."
Most of these wild critters are nocturnal, and very careful about
avoiding proximity to humans, or being seen by humans.
That's how they've survived.
So I don't listen to anybody who says "Not in my back yard" when the
animal has been proven to be even 500 miles away.

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:13:39 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

Kevin was pointing out coyotes are encroaching on suburban areas just
about everywhere.


You can't prove a negative. Not too smart to say "They're not here."
Most of these wild critters are nocturnal, and very careful about
avoiding proximity to humans, or being seen by humans.
That's how they've survived.
So I don't listen to anybody who says "Not in my back yard" when the
animal has been proven to be even 500 miles away.

We've had two coyotes in a park about a half mile from where I live in Alexandria, VA, and I'm
certainly not 'out in the country'.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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