"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/12/13 8:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:48:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/12/13 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/12/13 4:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:03:43 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


What is cruel or unusual about executing someone?
Why is him being "deranged" a factor? It sounds like the perfect
candidate.

Whoosh.


Exactly, flush that scum out of the gene pool.


In civilized countries, capital punishment is a thing of the past. In
the backwards states of the United States, it exists to give
conservatrash a woody.

Those countries don't have nearly the number of crimes that would
draw a death penalty or the alternative, life without parole.

At a certain point we are going to have to face the reality of
thousands of geriatric prisoners demanding nursing home care, in
custody. That $40,000 we have been paying to keep them alive will
skyrocket into 6 figures (at a time when we may not even be able to
give that care to productive people)
These are not the people who have worked and produced economic value
for the country. They are usually life time criminals who have been an
economic drag on us since the day they were born.

I don't have a problem killing them. We can use a drone if that eases
your conscience.
It seems to OK to kill anyone with a drone if we think they constitute
a threat...

The only problem I have is being sure you really have the right guy.
If it is someone like the Aurora shooter or The Fort Hood guy, we know
they did it ... spark them up.


As I stated, we are pretty much the only modern western nation that still
has the death penalty, and, of course, we have more crimes on the books
than other countries, and the largest percentage of population in prison.

You're a pretty bloodthirsty guy. Sorry to see that.

Other countries may not need the death penalty. Their long term prisoners
kill themselves. Japan has their prisoners in the cell 23 hours a day, and
no talking to other prisoners. Most European countries probably do not
have TV, Internet, and social programs for their inmates.

On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.

On 8/12/2013 11:10 PM, wrote:

Pretty much but you left pout the repeal of Glass Stegall and the
CFMA. That allowed consumer banks to deal in shaky commodities (those
repackaged loans) and the CFMA that allowed the derivatives in the
first place.
Both of those were Clinton's baby.

What was the name of the bill again? Who were the sponsors? What was
their party affiliation? What did Phil's wife do?

On Monday, August 12, 2013 6:27:05 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Flagged for the **** that it is

On 8/12/2013 5:51 PM, wrote:

Frank/Dodd did loosen up lending requirements. Clinton encouraged and
signed BOTH pieces of legislation that "unchained" Wall Street.

He was too centrist in that regard.

Nobody was complaining when the bubble was inflating and their house
tripled in value. Unemployment in the construction industry was 0.5%
Nobody complained about that either.
It was sort of like the Dot Com bubble a half decade before.
Nobody complained about that either ... until the crash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born

On 8/19/2013 11:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.


Mr Luddite doesn't work for peanuts. I doubt you have the resources to
pay him to enlighten you.

"Hank©" wrote in message
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On 8/19/2013 11:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be
more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of
magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.


Mr Luddite doesn't work for peanuts. I doubt you have the resources to
pay him to enlighten you.

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To the contrary, Mr. Luddite indeed now works for peanuts. Mrs. E.
bought him a six pack of Sam Adams for a week's work clearing trees,
branches and briars and using his tractor to create horse riding
trails in the woods beside his house.

Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.

On 8/20/13 8:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 8/19/2013 11:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.


Mr Luddite doesn't work for peanuts. I doubt you have the resources to
pay him to enlighten you.

-----------------------------

To the contrary, Mr. Luddite indeed now works for peanuts. Mrs. E.
bought him a six pack of Sam Adams for a week's work clearing trees,
branches and briars and using his tractor to create horse riding trails
in the woods beside his house.

Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.





Not that I would ever want to own a horse or two, but I've wondered from
time to time how much work on a daily basis it is to "keep" horses
properly. It just seems to me that the "upkeep" is continuous and
never-ending. And if you go on vacation, do you have to hire a service
to come by and take care of them?

On 8/20/13 8:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 8/19/2013 11:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.


Mr Luddite doesn't work for peanuts. I doubt you have the resources to
pay him to enlighten you.

-----------------------------

To the contrary, Mr. Luddite indeed now works for peanuts. Mrs. E.
bought him a six pack of Sam Adams for a week's work clearing trees,
branches and briars and using his tractor to create horse riding trails
in the woods beside his house.

Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.





I think I've finally finished buying, toting and spreading bags of mulch
for m'lady. 244 bags this season. I bought it in bulk one year off a
garden supply place that dumped it on my driveway. That was worse than
carrying the bags around the yard in a wheelbarrow. Bagged cedar mulch
lasts longer around here than the slightly cheaper pine mulch.

It's really an exercise in exercise. First, drive to Home Despot. Pull a
flatbed cart to the stacks of mulch, which sometimes are stacked 12'
high. Pull the bags down and stack them on the cart, 20 is the limit.
Pay for them, pull the cart outside and stack the bags in the back of
the SUV. Drive home. Unload the car, stacking the bags on the driveway.
Then, when an area is "ready" for the mulch, stack two bags on the
"hood" of the garden tractor, drive them where they are going to be
placed, slit the bags open, dump the mulch and spread it around.

Even more fun when the bags of mulch are wet.

But it is good exercise.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 8/20/13 8:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust
on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.


Not that I would ever want to own a horse or two, but I've wondered
from
time to time how much work on a daily basis it is to "keep" horses
properly. It just seems to me that the "upkeep" is continuous and
never-ending. And if you go on vacation, do you have to hire a service
to come by and take care of them?

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I really don't know how much it costs. It's a big secret around here.
:-)

Judging by the number of bales of hay in the barn loft (and how often
they are replenished) plus the number of bags of oats and wood
shavings she has stored, I'll bet it's not cheap. Then there's the
routine visits by the horse vet, the horse dentist and the farrier.
Of course you also have to consider all the saddles, bridles and
other accessories that I don't really have a clue as to what they
are. A horse can't have just one bridle or saddle. It has to have
several, depending on what type of riding you do, I guess. She has
one saddle that she finally has decided to sell. It's a custom, show
saddle that's worth about $5K. I told her it would look cool
installed on a custom Harley-Davidson.

When she first got them, Mrs.E. used to be active in horse shows and
one of her horses is a National Champion in something. But, as the
years have gone by they have become big, 1200 lb. pets. She's an
animal lover and the horses are dear to her heart. It's ok. She
deserves them after all the years of putting up with me and our
adventurous lives together. Only problem is that they are about
halfway through a normal horse life which means they'll probably
outlive me.

There's a young kid (also into horses) who has lined up a number of
clients and travels around daily to muck stalls, etc. Mrs.E. is one
of his clients.
Plus, she has a number of friends, including the people that bought
the old farmhouse from us (located at the end of our driveway) who
are horse people. They all help each other out and take care of the
horses when anyone is travelling away from home.

Then there's the town government. They send someone out to your barn
for an inspection every so often in order to renew your permit to have
horses. We never have a problem with that because Mrs.E. keeps the
barn, stalls and tack room in pristine condition. Unlike many other
places, our town does not permit spreading of the collected horse
manure, so we have a big, permanent dumpster that is emptied weekly.

In the past 12 years I rode one of them once for about 50 feet. Did
nothing for me. The only things I'll ride must have an ignition
on/off switch or pedals.