On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:40:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:25:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:40:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Yes, but you and your will power are head and shoulders above the rest of the population.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 8/2/2013 4:09 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:25:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:40:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Yes, but you and your will power are head and shoulders above the rest of the population.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I still see the penis cars aggressively marketed by showing stunt
drivers driving like assholes generally... then they tell you not to do
it in a disclaimer...

On 8/2/13 7:13 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/2/2013 4:09 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:25:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:40:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Yes, but you and your will power are head and shoulders above the rest
of the population.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I still see the penis cars aggressively marketed by showing stunt
drivers driving like assholes generally... then they tell you not to do
it in a disclaimer...


And of course, you would try to drive it like the asshole, ignoring the
advice in the disclaimer...while you were smoking a cigarette and
chomping on a Big Mac.

On 8/2/2013 3:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 12:40:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:32:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

8 appalling ways America leads the world

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Is that wh6y you're a picture of health today?

On 8/2/13 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:25:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 2:10 PM, wrote:

You could blame most of this on lawyers and advertising


But I don't.

No shock there but you don't think the fact that the US has the
highest insurance rates for OB/GYN than any other country in the world
is a problem.
You don't think we eat so much sugar and fat because it is so
aggressively marketed and I doubt you put lifestyle very high on the
list of reasons why we look so unhealthy. Again that lifestyle is
aggressively marketed to us.



I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Maybe being in the business jaded you to the ads but if they didn't
work, ad agencies would not be able to sell them and it would not be
12-14 minutes of every hour on TV.

It is also why ads cost a couple billion dollars an election cycle
these days. Somebody must believe ads work.


In Detroit, I wrote ads and news release stuff for a reference book
publisher, Motown Records, financial PR, and then in DC, I wrote ads for
Porsche of America, Florists Marketing Council, a couple of unions,
trade associations and ads and PR for Ringling Brothers. No cigs, booze,
crappyburgers or sodapop. Even handled a couple of local car dealers and
a department store. Most of the ads were aimed at building traffic,
e.g., getting customers to the dealer's showroom. After that, it was up
to the salesman or saleswoman. Had a lot of fun doing Mercedes and Fiat
radio commercials for a local dealer. Back then the car dealers were
individually or family owned, much better than dealing with "the suits."

On 8/2/13 7:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:20:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/2/13 5:08 PM, wrote:

I dunno. I remember when cigarettes were being aggressively marketed on
TV. I wasn't convinced I needed to smoke them. Same with booze. Or meals
from McDonalds. Or sugary soda pop.

Maybe being in the business jaded you to the ads but if they didn't
work, ad agencies would not be able to sell them and it would not be
12-14 minutes of every hour on TV.

It is also why ads cost a couple billion dollars an election cycle
these days. Somebody must believe ads work.


In Detroit, I wrote ads and news release stuff for a reference book
publisher, Motown Records, financial PR, and then in DC, I wrote ads for
Porsche of America, Florists Marketing Council, a couple of unions,
trade associations and ads and PR for Ringling Brothers. No cigs, booze,
crappyburgers or sodapop. Even handled a couple of local car dealers and
a department store. Most of the ads were aimed at building traffic,
e.g., getting customers to the dealer's showroom. After that, it was up
to the salesman or saleswoman. Had a lot of fun doing Mercedes and Fiat
radio commercials for a local dealer. Back then the car dealers were
individually or family owned, much better than dealing with "the suits."

Did you believe your ads were going to coax someone into buying your
product who might not have if they didn't see the ad?
That was the point.


That was your point. Mine was that we didn't sell harmful crap such as
cigs, boozes, unhealthy food.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


That was your point. Mine was that we didn't sell harmful crap such as
cigs, boozes, unhealthy food.

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You should run for mayor of NYC.

You're a regular Michael Bloomberg and Anthony Weiner rolled up in
one.

On 8/2/13 8:17 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


That was your point. Mine was that we didn't sell harmful crap such as
cigs, boozes, unhealthy food.

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You should run for mayor of NYC.

You're a regular Michael Bloomberg and Anthony Weiner rolled up in one.



Wasn't my choice. I was an ad/pr agency employee back then. The owner(s)
decided what sorts of business they wanted or didn't want. In the ad
biz, hard to think of a sleazier consumer product to sell than cigarettes.