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"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got
him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get
tired of people who make statements that I know to be false that are
intended to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges
that we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything
he posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a
perverse delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude
for the most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John
suggesting that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he
*was*. Just suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and
obviously the poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but
transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status
of minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see
it his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash".
Yet, in another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out
of his way to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very
desirable area with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and
future development statutes that are intended to restrict those who
may wish to build and move in. I think Harry would serve humanity
better if he moved to Detroit and became a community organizer rather
that call people names on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your
chain.

On 8/1/2013 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired
of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended
to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that
we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he
posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse
delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the
most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of
minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it
his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in
another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way
to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area
with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development
statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and
move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to
Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names
on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.

Yeah, but I don't get yanked so easily any mo)

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired
of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended
to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that
we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he
posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse
delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the
most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of
minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it
his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in
another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way
to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area
with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development
statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and
move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to
Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names
on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your chain.

You do go on, and yet you never try to castigate your good buddy here.
Mildly interesting.

We live in a nice area, but it certainly isn't the locale of the "super
rich." There are only a couple of expensive restaurants around here, the
building codes are ordinary but enforced, but the zoning is stringent to
maintain a semi-rural atmosphere outside of the commercial areas, and
there are no statutes to restrict anyone from moving in. The local
impact fee, as I mentioned, may or may not still be in effect, but
Gregg's area has a much higher one.

I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,
there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the
illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those
Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the
disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.

Oh, I did live in Birmingham, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, and I
worked in downtown Detroit. I also worked a full year in Chicago for an
organization run by...Saul Alinsky. When I was hired by the teachers
union, I hired Alinsky to come to a conference of state teacher leaders
in New York to put on presentations on how to use the system, a task at
which Alinsky was unsurpassed.

I find it amusing so many righties here are so obsessed about me. They
would be better served practicing the christianity they proclaim is so
important to their lives.

On 8/1/13 7:16 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 8/1/2013 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get tired
of people who make statements that I know to be false that are intended
to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges that
we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything he
posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a perverse
delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude for the
most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status of
minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see it
his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash". Yet, in
another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out of his way
to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very desirable area
with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and future development
statutes that are intended to restrict those who may wish to build and
move in. I think Harry would serve humanity better if he moved to
Detroit and became a community organizer rather that call people names
on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your
chain.

Yeah, but I don't get yanked so easily any mo)

I have to agree, when you are on your meds one day a week, your behavior
is less psychotic.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John
suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but
transparent.

I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,
there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling
the
illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those
Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the
disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.

-----------------------------------------

It's also possible that you (or I) are methamphetamine addicts, but
there is no evidence of that being a fact.
My complaint was your follow-up post insinuating that he indeed *is*
an alcoholic. You have no knowledge of that that I or anyone else is
aware of.

As for Jim, you claim to have him in your Bozo bin, so I don't
understand your frequent comments about his posts. Well, that's not
true. I completely understand the purpose of your responses. I see
his posts and frankly they are often funny as hell. I suspect he
gets as big a kick out of your accusations and disparaging remarks
about him as you enjoy making them. Pretty harmless, overall, unlike
some of the mean spirited and blatantly false statements and
assumptions you often make about people who don't agree with you.
That's why I get ****ed off sometimes.

Reminds me of five year olds sometimes. "He hit me first". Only
thing is I am one of several people who actually remember who started
it.

On 8/1/13 8:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but transparent.

I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he is,
there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling the
illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those
Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the
disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.

-----------------------------------------

It's also possible that you (or I) are methamphetamine addicts, but
there is no evidence of that being a fact.
My complaint was your follow-up post insinuating that he indeed *is* an
alcoholic. You have no knowledge of that that I or anyone else is aware
of.

As for Jim, you claim to have him in your Bozo bin, so I don't
understand your frequent comments about his posts. Well, that's not
true. I completely understand the purpose of your responses. I see
his posts and frankly they are often funny as hell. I suspect he gets
as big a kick out of your accusations and disparaging remarks about him
as you enjoy making them. Pretty harmless, overall, unlike some of the
mean spirited and blatantly false statements and assumptions you often
make about people who don't agree with you. That's why I get ****ed off
sometimes.

Reminds me of five year olds sometimes. "He hit me first". Only thing
is I am one of several people who actually remember who started it.

I see the occasional flajim post second or third hand, when someone
quotes him.

And, as I posted earlier, you think flajim's snarky behavior here is
"funny as hell." So it is ok when your right-wing buddy does it. Right?
Hypocrisy.

If you wanted a nicer newsgroup, you'd share your wrath.

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:11:33 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

What is harsh but true is what Dick has said about harry lately. Got
him
pinned for exactly the loser he is...

---------------------------------------

It's not my goal to pin anybody. That makes me as bad as those I
complain about and I plead guilty occasionally. Sometimes I get
tired of people who make statements that I know to be false that are
intended to disparage people they don't even know.

Many of us have posted things here in the heat of debate exchanges
that we later probably regret. But not Harry. Virtually everything
he posts, he means and it's done for a purpose. He seems to get a
perverse delight in such. I usually try to maintain a civil attitude
for the most part but lately he's been ****ing me off.

Examples:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John
suggesting that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he
*was*. Just suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and
obviously the poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but
transparent.

Then there's his endless social commentary and comments on the status
of minorities, the poor and the disenfranchised. If others don't see
it his way, they are obviously either racist or "republi-trash".
Yet, in another thread about building permits, etc., Harry went out
of his way to make sure we all are aware that he lives in a very
desirable area with fine restaurants, stringent building codes and
future development statutes that are intended to restrict those who
may wish to build and move in. I think Harry would serve humanity
better if he moved to Detroit and became a community organizer rather
that call people names on a goofy newsgroup.

Harry blames everyone else for the demise of rec.boats as a useful
newsgroup, yet he is by far the biggest contributor to it's decline.
Just ask him. It has been his goal and he delights in yanking your
chain.

===

Just about everything you need to know about Harry can be found right
he

http://www.lewrockwell.com/1999/09/mike/how-to-spot-a-sociopath-10redflags-that-could-save-you-from-being-swept-under-the-influence-of-a-charismatic-nutjob/

and he

Identifying narcissistic sociopaths

Although not all narcissists are sociopaths, all sociopaths are
narcissists (Stout 2010). Therefore, if you can identify a narcissist,
you’re one step closer to being able to recognize a sociopath. Below
is a definition of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and a list
of narcissistic traits taken directly from the website of Dr. Sam
Vaknin, author of Malignant Self-Love. (If you know someone who fits
at least 5 or more of these traits, a psychiatrist could easily
diagnose him/her as having NPD.)

The DSM-IV-TR defines Narcissistic Personality Disorder as “an
all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need
for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by
early adulthood and present in various contexts,” such as family life
and work.

1. Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates
accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to
the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements);

2. Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome
power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist),
bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or
ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion;

3. Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can
only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with,
other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions);

4. Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation
– or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious
(Narcissistic Supply);

5. Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or
her unreasonable expectations for special and favorable priority
treatment;

6. Is “interpersonally exploitative”, i.e., uses others to achieve his
or her own ends;

7. Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with,
acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities,
and choices of others;

8. Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the
objects of his or her frustration. Suffers from persecutory (paranoid)
delusions as he or she believes that they feel the same about him or
her and are likely to act similarly;

9. Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent,
omniscient, invincible, immune, “above the law”, and omnipresent
(magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted
by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy
(http://samvak.tripod.com).

Once it’s clear you’re dealing with a narcissist, go through the
following list to see if the narcissist is also a sociopath. (You’ll
discover many overlapping traits from each list.) The list below of 20
sociopathic traits is taken directly from the book Without Conscience:
The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us by Dr. Robert D.
Hare, Ph.D:

1. Glib and superficial charm. The tendency to be smooth, engaging,
charming, slick, and verbally facile. Sociopathic charm is not in the
least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A sociopath
never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social
conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

2. Grandiose self-worth. A grossly inflated view of one’s abilities
and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart.
Sociopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human
beings.

3. Need for stimulation or proneness to boredom. An excessive need for
novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing
things that are risky. Sociopaths often have low self-discipline in
carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily.
They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example,
or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

4. Pathological lying. Can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they
will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form,
they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous,
manipulative, and dishonest.

5. Conning and manipulative. The use of deceit and deception to cheat,
con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4
in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is
present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and
suffering of one’s victims.

6. Lack of remorse or guilt. A lack of feelings or concern for the
losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned,
dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually
demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

7. Shallow affect. Emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of
feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open
gregariousness.

8. Callousness and lack of empathy. A lack of feelings toward people
in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

9. Parasitic lifestyle. An intentional, manipulative, selfish, and
exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of
motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete
responsibilities.

10. Poor behavioral controls. Expressions of irritability, annoyance,
impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control
of anger and temper; acting hastily.

11. Promiscuous sexual behavior. A variety of brief, superficial
relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual
partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a
history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or
taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. Early behavior problems. A variety of behaviors prior to age 13,
including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual
activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away
from home.

13. Lack of realistic, long-term goals. An inability or persistent
failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic
existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

14. Impulsivity. The occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated
and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation,
frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering
the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and
reckless.

15. Irresponsibility. Repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations
and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans,
performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor
contractual agreements.

16. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions. A failure to
accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low
conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic
manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate
others through this denial.

17. Many short-term marital relationships. A lack of commitment to a
long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and
unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. Juvenile delinquency. Behavior problems between the ages of 13-18;
mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of
antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous,
ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. Revocation of condition release. A revocation of probation or
other conditional release due to technical violations, such as
carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

20. Criminal versatility. A diversity of types of criminal offenses,
regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them;
taking great pride at getting away with crimes. (Hare 2011).

In addition to the above two lists of traits, the biggest trait (or
magic trick as I like to call it) that makes narcissistic sociopaths
so dangerous and effective is their ability to go unnoticed by the
rest of us. They can do this, because they are good at pretending
(lying) and wearing many masks (again, lying). Simply put, they lie to
themselves and everyone else. They lie so much that some of them are
convinced of their own lies, which is where evil is born.

http://paularenee.wordpress.com/identifying-a-narcissistic-sociopath/

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 8/1/13 8:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 8/1/13 7:11 PM, Eisboch wrote:

Somebody here (forget who) recently made a comment about John
suggesting
that he may be a recovering alcoholic. Didn't say he *was*. Just
suggested that maybe he was. It was uncalled for and obviously the
poster has absolutely no idea if it is true or not.

Harry liked that of course, picked up on it and within the hour was
commenting on John's alcoholism, as if it was a proven fact.
That's the crap that gets me ****ed off sometimes. Cute but
transparent.

I think it is possible Herring is an alcoholic in recovery. If he
is,
there's nothing wrong with that. Recovery means you are controlling
the
illness, and it isn't controlling you. And I surely think those
Republicans who so obviously hate the poor, minorities and the
disenfranchised are Republic-trash. Absolutely.

-----------------------------------------

It's also possible that you (or I) are methamphetamine addicts, but
there is no evidence of that being a fact.
My complaint was your follow-up post insinuating that he indeed *is*
an
alcoholic. You have no knowledge of that that I or anyone else is
aware
of.

As for Jim, you claim to have him in your Bozo bin, so I don't
understand your frequent comments about his posts. Well, that's not
true. I completely understand the purpose of your responses. I
see
his posts and frankly they are often funny as hell. I suspect he
gets
as big a kick out of your accusations and disparaging remarks about
him
as you enjoy making them. Pretty harmless, overall, unlike some of
the
mean spirited and blatantly false statements and assumptions you
often
make about people who don't agree with you. That's why I get ****ed
off
sometimes.

Reminds me of five year olds sometimes. "He hit me first". Only
thing
is I am one of several people who actually remember who started it.

I see the occasional flajim post second or third hand, when someone
quotes him.

And, as I posted earlier, you think flajim's snarky behavior here is
"funny as hell." So it is ok when your right-wing buddy does it.
Right?
Hypocrisy.

If you wanted a nicer newsgroup, you'd share your wrath.

---------------------------------

I'd suggest that we let others be the judge and jury.