On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:46:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/28/13 7:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Right, because we all know that the killing of noncombatant Asians was
nothing more than collateral damage, and not worth a second thought,
right, fellas?

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Killing of anyone is morally wrong unless they are trying to kill you
or your fellow troops. That said, war is hell. Many innocent
civillians are killed in all wars - doesn't make it right but there is
plenty of precedent for it.



Indeed, plenty of noncombatant civilians were killed in World War II,
the war in which the world as we know it was at stake. The rationales
for the war against Vietnam were nothing more than political canards,
and therefore the massive number of civilian deaths was even more
horrific.

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Who would you thank for that, JFK or LBJ?

On 7/28/13 8:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:46:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/28/13 7:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Right, because we all know that the killing of noncombatant Asians was
nothing more than collateral damage, and not worth a second thought,
right, fellas?

===

Killing of anyone is morally wrong unless they are trying to kill you
or your fellow troops. That said, war is hell. Many innocent
civillians are killed in all wars - doesn't make it right but there is
plenty of precedent for it.



Indeed, plenty of noncombatant civilians were killed in World War II,
the war in which the world as we know it was at stake. The rationales
for the war against Vietnam were nothing more than political canards,
and therefore the massive number of civilian deaths was even more
horrific.

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Who would you thank for that, JFK or LBJ?


Actually, the SEATO treaty goes back to 1954, and that was the precursor
to our involvement in Vietnam. It was an outgrowth of the Truman
Doctrine. The actual U.S. participation in the war usually is traced
back to 1955, but its real start was the end of World War II, when the
French tried to reestablish its colonial rule.

Certainly Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon had dirty hands in that war.

On Sunday, 28 July 2013 18:06:35 UTC-3, wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:48:32 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:

Funny..growing up we always knew when the American Navy was in by all the Popeye outfits crowding the downtown area.



Now if you see them, a lot look like street punks.



Different times.



Must be your thugs dressing up. The young men and women serving in our military are a cut above what serves as canuck youth, eh?


Sure thing, JackOff.
Couple of years ago one of your sailor boys decided to wear all his gold chains around his neck while strutting down in the bar district.
A local punk took a shine to those chains and killed your sailor for them.
I don't ever recall sailors in the 60's wearing big gold chains while bar hopping.... funny hats and swabbie outfits, maybe.

On Sunday, 28 July 2013 18:16:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"True North" wrote in message

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Funny..growing up we always knew when the American Navy was in by all

the Popeye outfits crowding the downtown area.

Now if you see them, a lot look like street punks.

Different times.



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Maybe they were enlisted members of your own Navy .... like this guy:



http://lookoutnewspaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ET2011-0121-14.jpg


Our navy hasn't worn those black hats since WW2.
Looked too much like the Brits.

On 7/28/2013 6:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:


Have you *ever* done anything in your life that would be considered an
"honorable" thing to do, or have you spent your life simply looking out
for what *you* can get out of the system or the interests of those who
paid you to promote their interests? Based on your history of posting
here, I think it's the latter.



.... oh man.

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:57:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 28 July 2013 18:06:35 UTC-3, wrote:

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:48:32 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:



Funny..growing up we always knew when the American Navy was in by all the Popeye outfits crowding the downtown area.




Now if you see them, a lot look like street punks.





Must be your thugs dressing up. The young men and women serving in our military are a cut above what serves as canuck youth, eh?



Couple of years ago one of your sailor boys decided to wear all his gold chains around his neck while strutting down in the bar district.

A local punk took a shine to those chains and killed your sailor for them.

Thanks for proving my point, ol' bow legs.