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So, can he shoot your daughter?
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... "Common sense" would have had Zimmerman staying in his car and wait for the police, like the dispatcher suggested, and like the police's representative told them at the neighborhood watch meeting, and like the pamphlets handed out also stated. ---------------------------------------- I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. |
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On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... "Common sense" would have had Zimmerman staying in his car and wait for the police, like the dispatcher suggested, and like the police's representative told them at the neighborhood watch meeting, and like the pamphlets handed out also stated. ---------------------------------------- I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. |
So, can he shoot your daughter?
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. ---------------------------------------- Sorry. I forgot that earlier this month you postulated the theory that Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted, ostensibly to mask his vigilante style scheme to stalk, attack and shoot a black male in his neighborhood because of his racist hatred of blacks in general. I suppose the protest he organized a year prior in support of the black homeless guy mistreated by the police and his tutoring of young black kids was all part of this master plan to get away with murder when the opportunity presented itself. He must have also convinced his gym trainer not to significantly improve his fighting skills and offered help to neighbors whose houses were broken into ... all part of a masterful, well conceived plot. More information is becoming available to the public regarding the backgrounds and character profiles of both Zimmerman and Martin. Of course there are those who will never acknowledge that maybe they were wrong in their judgments, but the truth will eventually become unavoidable. Zimmerman broke no laws. He was getting the crap beaten out of him and feared for his life. Under self-defense laws he was justified in using deadly force, a conclusion that the jury also found to be appropriate. |
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On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. ---------------------------------------- Sorry. I forgot that earlier this month you postulated the theory that Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted, ostensibly to mask his vigilante style scheme to stalk, attack and shoot a black male in his neighborhood because of his racist hatred of blacks in general. I suppose the protest he organized a year prior in support of the black homeless guy mistreated by the police and his tutoring of young black kids was all part of this master plan to get away with murder when the opportunity presented itself. He must have also convinced his gym trainer not to significantly improve his fighting skills and offered help to neighbors whose houses were broken into ... all part of a masterful, well conceived plot. More information is becoming available to the public regarding the backgrounds and character profiles of both Zimmerman and Martin. Of course there are those who will never acknowledge that maybe they were wrong in their judgments, but the truth will eventually become unavoidable. Zimmerman broke no laws. He was getting the crap beaten out of him and feared for his life. Under self-defense laws he was justified in using deadly force, a conclusion that the jury also found to be appropriate. Your comment postulated that Zimmerman's nose injury indicated Martin started the fight. There's nothing on which to base that. Zimmerman might well have punched Martin first, and Martin then might have punched Zimmerman in the nose. |
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So, can he shoot your daughter?
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So, can he shoot your daughter?
On 7/24/2013 10:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. ---------------------------------------- Sorry. I forgot that earlier this month you postulated the theory that Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted, ostensibly to mask his vigilante style scheme to stalk, attack and shoot a black male in his neighborhood because of his racist hatred of blacks in general. I suppose the protest he organized a year prior in support of the black homeless guy mistreated by the police and his tutoring of young black kids was all part of this master plan to get away with murder when the opportunity presented itself. He must have also convinced his gym trainer not to significantly improve his fighting skills and offered help to neighbors whose houses were broken into ... all part of a masterful, well conceived plot. More information is becoming available to the public regarding the backgrounds and character profiles of both Zimmerman and Martin. Of course there are those who will never acknowledge that maybe they were wrong in their judgments, but the truth will eventually become unavoidable. Zimmerman broke no laws. He was getting the crap beaten out of him and feared for his life. Under self-defense laws he was justified in using deadly force, a conclusion that the jury also found to be appropriate. Your comment postulated that Zimmerman's nose injury indicated Martin started the fight. There's nothing on which to base that. Zimmerman might well have punched Martin first, and Martin then might have punched Zimmerman in the nose. What would he have punched martin with? The back of his head, or his nose? |
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On 7/24/2013 12:32 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/24/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... "Common sense" would have had Zimmerman staying in his car and wait for the police, like the dispatcher suggested, and like the police's representative told them at the neighborhood watch meeting, and like the pamphlets handed out also stated. ---------------------------------------- I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. Wait a second, a scratch or a wound or whatever on Zimmerman's nose concludes somehow that Martin STARTED the altercation? How so? It doesn't. And nobody said it did, well, but you and kevin.. martin only had bruised hands and that round hole in his chest. Zimm only had cuts on his head and a broken nose. He had no defensive wounds. |
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On 7/24/13 12:35 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/24/2013 12:32 PM, Hank© wrote: On 7/24/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... "Common sense" would have had Zimmerman staying in his car and wait for the police, like the dispatcher suggested, and like the police's representative told them at the neighborhood watch meeting, and like the pamphlets handed out also stated. ---------------------------------------- I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. Wait a second, a scratch or a wound or whatever on Zimmerman's nose concludes somehow that Martin STARTED the altercation? How so? It doesn't. And nobody said it did, well, but you and kevin.. martin only had bruised hands and that round hole in his chest. Zimm only had cuts on his head and a broken nose. He had no defensive wounds. Read much, psychomoron? |
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So, can he shoot your daughter?
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says... On 7/24/2013 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:14:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. His girlfriend even thinks Martin hit Zimmerman first and she was the closest thing to a witness the state had., That "theory" came to light right before the trial. That "theory" had never been discussed or mentioned by that witness until she had to testify in court and of course being no evidence at all to back up her theory, it was shot down quickly by the defense. The jury could see a young girl trying to help her friends and do what Sharpton and all told her to do.. What "theory"? |
So, can he shoot your daughter?
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. ---------------------------------------- Your comment postulated that Zimmerman's nose injury indicated Martin started the fight. There's nothing on which to base that. Zimmerman might well have punched Martin first, and Martin then might have punched Zimmerman in the nose. ------------------------------------ Testimony in the trial suggests that it is unlikely that Zimmerman threw *any* punches period. If he was the racist vigilante that you like to promote, why throw a fist if you have a 9mm handgun strapped to your belt? In the end it doesn't matter who threw the first punch. The upheld self defense claim has nothing to do with who threw the first punch, who followed who or what anyone said to the other. |
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In article ,
says... On 7/24/2013 12:32 PM, Hank© wrote: On 7/24/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... "Common sense" would have had Zimmerman staying in his car and wait for the police, like the dispatcher suggested, and like the police's representative told them at the neighborhood watch meeting, and like the pamphlets handed out also stated. ---------------------------------------- I agree with you .... except for the part about the dispatcher "suggesting" that he stay in his car. That didn't happen. Zimmerman was already out of his car, prompted by the dispatcher's question, "Where is he"? When told "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman replied "Ok" and attempted to return to his car, according to his account. The rest I agree with. Only thing is, nothing he did was illegal and there's nothing to suggest that Zimmerman physically threatened Martin or attacked him . If you and others have concluded in your imaginations that he did, so be it but there is absolutely zero evidence of that. There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. Wait a second, a scratch or a wound or whatever on Zimmerman's nose concludes somehow that Martin STARTED the altercation? How so? It doesn't. And nobody said it did, well, but you and kevin.. martin only had bruised hands and that round hole in his chest. Zimm only had cuts on his head and a broken nose. He had no defensive wounds. Oh, ****, moron, WTF do you think this answer to this statement says?? Harry stated: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. To which Eisboch replied: Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. |
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On 7/24/13 1:11 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:49:40 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:14:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:41:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he was about to commit a crime. He was a stranger INSIDE the fence of a gated community. This was not a public street. Then what were the police doing there, they would have no jurisdiction. Why do you think the police have no "jurisdiction" on private property? If an invited guest of a homeowner doesn't have the right to be there, neither would a cop. If the cop was not in uniform, they have a right to ask him for an ID too. It is also not unreasonable to ask him why he was there. That was the last question asked by Zimmerman before Martin hit him (again according to the STATE'S witness). Come up behind me at night in the rain and start messing with me and see if I just cower and wait for what could possibly be a person wanting to do me harm.... Don't do it in redneck, florida. You'll get shot by an asshole standing his ground. |
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On 7/24/13 1:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 10:08 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/24/13 9:30 AM, Eisboch wrote: There's nothing to suggest that Martin started the altercation. -------------------------------- Zimmerman's nose provides a clue. No, it doesn't. ---------------------------------------- Your comment postulated that Zimmerman's nose injury indicated Martin started the fight. There's nothing on which to base that. Zimmerman might well have punched Martin first, and Martin then might have punched Zimmerman in the nose. ------------------------------------ Testimony in the trial suggests that it is unlikely that Zimmerman threw *any* punches period. If he was the racist vigilante that you like to promote, why throw a fist if you have a 9mm handgun strapped to your belt? In the end it doesn't matter who threw the first punch. The upheld self defense claim has nothing to do with who threw the first punch, who followed who or what anyone said to the other. There were no witnesses, so I'm not sure what "testimony" would have been valid. Obviously the lesson here is that if you want to kill someone, make sure there are no witnesses. |
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So, can he shoot your daughter?
True North wrote:
I still say the 'merican gov't should take handguns out of the hands of Americans. Too many just can't be trusted with them. It's working great in Chicago, eh? |
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:42:16 -0400, Earl wrote:
True North wrote: I still say the 'merican gov't should take handguns out of the hands of Americans. Too many just can't be trusted with them. It's working great in Chicago, eh? And DC. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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