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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 07:46:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/20/13 1:34 AM, wrote:

In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.

Wow, that must be what Fox was presenting, eh?

That is what the prosecution admitted was the likely scenario.

cite?

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:28:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/19/13 3:33 PM, wrote:

I doubt iLoogy wants Zimmerman murdered. I don't, either, but I think it
would be appropriate for him to face the same situation he forced on
Martin, with the other guy armed, too.

In at least part of the Old West, if you confronted an unarmed man on
the street and ended up shooting him, the townfolk would string you up.

You are leaping to the conclusion that Zimmerman, somehow confronted
Martin when even the girlfriend admits Martin probably threw the first
punch.

You DO realize, don't you, that just because Martin might have thrown
the first punch, doesn't mean that Zimmerman didn't "confront" Martin,
right?

A lot of talk was raised about a depraved mind.
In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.
At that moment, who had the depraved mind?
Who was in mortal fear?
That is the definition of self defense.

Yes, Martin was self defending himself, true enough.

USA today made the statement "If Zimmerman did not have a gun, Martin
would be alive". The question is, would Zimmerman be dead?

No, Zimmerman wouldn't have ever confronted Martin, he'd have done what
the cops always say to do, what the police liaison told them to do, and
what the literature told them to do, wait for the cops.

F.O.A.D.

On 7/20/13 11:42 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:19 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

A lot of talk was raised about a depraved mind.
In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.
At that moment, who had the depraved mind?
Who was in mortal fear?
That is the definition of self defense.

Yes, Martin was self defending himself, true enough.

The first punch was self defense (perhaps)
The continued beating after the threat was abated was aggravated
assault. That is the danger of defending yourself with your fists.
You are required by law to stop as soon as you are no longer
threatened

You are once again posting a scenario you did not witness.

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:19 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

A lot of talk was raised about a depraved mind.
In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.
At that moment, who had the depraved mind?
Who was in mortal fear?
That is the definition of self defense.

Yes, Martin was self defending himself, true enough.

The first punch was self defense (perhaps)
The continued beating after the threat was abated was aggravated
assault. That is the danger of defending yourself with your fists.
You are required by law to stop as soon as you are no longer
threatened.

As long as Zimmerman was still trying to get to his gun, or get up, or
such, the threat is still there.

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:08:32 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:19 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

A lot of talk was raised about a depraved mind.
In the moments before the shooting, Martin was on top of and had
complete control over Zimmerman, Zimmerman not accomplishing any
effective defensive measures and was crying like a little girl yet
Martin kept beating on him.
At that moment, who had the depraved mind?
Who was in mortal fear?
That is the definition of self defense.

Yes, Martin was self defending himself, true enough.

The first punch was self defense (perhaps)
The continued beating after the threat was abated was aggravated
assault. That is the danger of defending yourself with your fists.
You are required by law to stop as soon as you are no longer
threatened.

As long as Zimmerman was still trying to get to his gun, or get up, or
such, the threat is still there.

Where is the evidence of any of that?
You are making **** up again.

I'm making **** up?? YOU wrote a whole paragraph above that is not
shrouded in one bit of evidence!!!

You had the due process you wanted, the state lost, get over it.

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