"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Anyone for persecuting strangers?

;-)

Anyone for persecuting strangers?

;-)

Tis the season to work retail... I've been looking for work since
June, apparently my career changed while I wasn't looking and now I
need to have an Engineering background writing C++ code, and also
Marketing qualifications... I now need a bachelor's degree in things
that didn't even exist when I was in school, in order to do the job I
used to have before they shut the company down.
They won't hire me at the carwash because I don't speak Spanish and
they say I won't stick around, that I'll leave as soon as a better
jobs shows up - so lack committment to their enterprise. Same thing
with the gardening. I've worked landscaping and gardening before, but
now it's no habla Espanol and no committment. The local McDonalds
says that I'm overqualified, the wrong demographic, and won't stick
around, (I think it's because I'm too middle-aged), and since I've
never worked Retail they don't trust me behind the cash-register at
Macy's. Well it's not so much the lack of experience as that more
17-20 year olds have much more retail experience and are the preferred
employees.
I think boats are neat but the guys running the training school at the
Harbor want me to pay for lessons first before I crew any of their
boats, and can't I just come up with the $1800 for a lesson-plan and
$1295 per year club-membership? I could have if I had a job. Besides
business is slow and they don't have any job-openings either.

:-)

-keith
mtn. view

DirtCarshr wrote:

Anyone for persecuting strangers?

;-)


Tis the season to work retail... I've been looking for work since
June, apparently my career changed while I wasn't looking and now I
need to have an Engineering background writing C++ code, and also
Marketing qualifications... I now need a bachelor's degree in things
that didn't even exist when I was in school, in order to do the job I
used to have before they shut the company down.
They won't hire me at the carwash because I don't speak Spanish and
they say I won't stick around, that I'll leave as soon as a better
jobs shows up - so lack committment to their enterprise. Same thing
with the gardening. I've worked landscaping and gardening before, but
now it's no habla Espanol and no committment. The local McDonalds
says that I'm overqualified, the wrong demographic, and won't stick
around, (I think it's because I'm too middle-aged), and since I've
never worked Retail they don't trust me behind the cash-register at
Macy's. Well it's not so much the lack of experience as that more
17-20 year olds have much more retail experience and are the preferred
employees.
I think boats are neat but the guys running the training school at the
Harbor want me to pay for lessons first before I crew any of their
boats, and can't I just come up with the $1800 for a lesson-plan and
$1295 per year club-membership? I could have if I had a job. Besides
business is slow and they don't have any job-openings either.

:-)

-keith
mtn. view
^^^^^^^^^
Ask around over at Sequoia Yacht Club on the weekend
(http://www.sequoiayc.org/) -- really nice folks and always willing to
help someone get started. It's an all volunteer club, so when you do
get employment the annual fee won't break the bank :-)

-keith
mtn. view
^^^^^^^^^
Ask around over at Sequoia Yacht Club on the weekend
(http://www.sequoiayc.org/) -- really nice folks and always willing to
help someone get started. It's an all volunteer club, so when you do
get employment the annual fee won't break the bank :-)

Thanks, that's excellent! Spinnaker is a bit rich for me now.

-keith

"DirtCarshr" wrote in message
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No need to explain. Simon is just a high-horsed minority here.

$1295 per year membership fee's???????

Do they have any members at all?

The two clubs that I belong to, The Blue Water Club and the Hervey Bay Boat
Club, both cost less than $30 per year membership each.
I also store my boat at the Blue Water Club for the extra amount of $100 per
year.

But that is in Australia, not the USA.
--
Garry Beattie
Ocean Spirit Trailer Sailer &
Small Yacht Cruising Emagazine
www.ocean-spirit.com


"DirtCarshr" wrote in message
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$1295 per year club-membership?
-keith
mtn. view

"Garry Beattie" wrote:

$1295 per year membership fee's???????

Do they have any members at all?

I don't know how many, they have but that's for the low-level
membership plus all the benefits like free unlimited day use of
Santana 22s, reciprocal rates, etc... It's $1695 and $2195 for higher
grades, bigger boats.
It's not considered an everyman's sport around.

The two clubs that I belong to, The Blue Water Club and the Hervey Bay Boat
Club, both cost less than $30 per year membership each.
I also store my boat at the Blue Water Club for the extra amount of $100 per
year.

The other place I was pointed to has more reasonable membership
prices.

But that is in Australia, not the USA.

This is the USA - but to some here it's not the USA, it's a state of
mind.

--
Garry Beattie

BayAryan

"Dirt&WaterCrashr" wrote in message
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"Garry Beattie" wrote:

$1295 per year membership fee's???????

Do they have any members at all?

I don't know how many, they have but that's for the low-level
membership plus all the benefits like free unlimited day use of
Santana 22s, reciprocal rates, etc... It's $1695 and $2195 for higher
grades, bigger boats.
It's not considered an everyman's sport around.

Well that may put a different perspective on it.
They have club yachts which you can use any time you like, provided it is
during the day, for no extra charge?

Perhaps that price is not too bad at all considering.

Garry

I don't know how many, they have but that's for the low-level
membership plus all the benefits like free unlimited day use of
Santana 22s, reciprocal rates, etc... It's $1695 and $2195 for higher
grades, bigger boats.
It's not considered an everyman's sport around.

Well that may put a different perspective on it.
They have club yachts which you can use any time you like, provided it is
during the day, for no extra charge?

Perhaps that price is not too bad at all considering.

Garry

The price of entry keeps out the riff-raff?

-keith

Garry Beattie wrote:
$1295 per year membership fee's???????

Do they have any members at all?

The two clubs that I belong to, The Blue Water Club and the Hervey Bay Boat
Club, both cost less than $30 per year membership each.
I also store my boat at the Blue Water Club for the extra amount of $100 per
year.

But that is in Australia, not the USA.

Ah, you're a lucky man. But also in Queenland & I reckon that the pokey
machines more than help offset the cost of membership :-) Also doubt
that you'd be able to get in the door of the Royal Sydney Yacht Squadron
for $11 Aus :-) I used to live in NSW (Gordon just north of Sydney) and
miss the sailing there very much...

Keith is in the San Fransico Bay area (so maybe a little off topic for
this Southern California tread, but what the heck -- anything to help
get someone out sailing :-) and I think referring to the Spinnaker
Sailing School & Club (see: http://www.spinnakersailing.com/). SS have
a good reputation for sail training on the bay, but are indeed quite
pricey.

Sequoia Yacht Club shares the same parking lot as SS Redwood City, but
are an all volunteer club with lots of good folks. Rates (for this
area) are quite reasonable, http://www.sequoiayc.org/membership.html,
and there always seems to be room for an extra pair of hands (member or
not) if you're courteous, keen to learn, and willing to put in a little
volunteer work along the way.

Disclaimer: my son is a Youth Member ($25 US per year) -- I'm not a
member of SYC (can't afford it right now as I'm out of work too) but
very familiar with the club and spend volunteer time there during
youth/school sailing regattas.

Note to Keith: Drop by SYC tomorrow/Saturday morning around 8:30 or 9:00
(w/foul weather gear in your trunk/boot) and you might just get lucky --
could be that someone needs an extra hand for the Redwood Cup races
going on there tomorrow. Even if you don't get lucky, or have no
sailing experience at all, you should be able to find someone talk to --
just be aware that it might get hectic in the morning due to the races.

If you have a child (8-18) that wants to learn to sail, bring him/her
along and go back west from the club to the next light, hook a right and
go to the public launch facility at the end of Chesapeake Drive (Use
1299 Chesapeake Dr, Redwood City as the destination address for MapQuest
directions http://www.mapquest.com/directions/). Youth sailing starts at
8:30 & high school sailers start training at 10:00. Youth sailing (8 to
high school) ask for Phil, high school sailing (grade 8-12) as for Eric.

Either way -- pop around either of those two places and I'm sure that
someone can get you (or your child if you have one) sailing eventually
for far less than you'd think. Like Garry Beattie (lucky guy) referred
to, there are lots of less expensive ways to get out on the water, plus
most sailors really are good folks & willing to help if you are sincere
about wanting to sail or learn to sail.

P.S. Good luck to Geoff as well -- I hope that you can find someone to
take you and your gal out in SC!