On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:39:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/27/13 6:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:05:42 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


What we will get is activists going from Church to Church suing those

who will not marry them. The long term is to drive the Churches from

their business... They just do it so much better than the Govt, the left

hates that.



More absurdities.

Not really, Harry.

I have a friend who is a pastor of an old line denomination who's beliefs have been steering towards social 'gay rights' for some time. He doesn't believe in 'gay marriage' but stands on the core of 'man and woman'. However, he is afraid that if the deciding powers of the church's national, or state (or even regional) council says he must perform same-sex marriages, then he feels he will be forced to abide. OR, he feels that there is a chance that he could be civilly charged in a discrimination suite, maybe lose his retirement and/or possibly forfeit his ordination license to preach in that denomination.

Seriously.


Being ordered to do something by a denomination to whom you have
expressed fealty and submission is not the same as being ordered to do
so by a civil court. If you don't like what the denomination is telling
you to do, you can quit, eh?

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You may have missed the part about possibly losing his retirement
benefits - no different than working fot a corporation.

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:39:24 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:39:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 6/27/13 6:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:05:42 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:





What we will get is activists going from Church to Church suing those



who will not marry them. The long term is to drive the Churches from



their business... They just do it so much better than the Govt, the left



hates that.







More absurdities.



Not really, Harry.



I have a friend who is a pastor of an old line denomination who's beliefs have been steering towards social 'gay rights' for some time. He doesn't believe in 'gay marriage' but stands on the core of 'man and woman'. However, he is afraid that if the deciding powers of the church's national, or state (or even regional) council says he must perform same-sex marriages, then he feels he will be forced to abide. OR, he feels that there is a chance that he could be civilly charged in a discrimination suite, maybe lose his retirement and/or possibly forfeit his ordination license to preach in that denomination.



Seriously.





Being ordered to do something by a denomination to whom you have

expressed fealty and submission is not the same as being ordered to do

so by a civil court. If you don't like what the denomination is telling

you to do, you can quit, eh?



===



You may have missed the part about possibly losing his retirement
benefits - no different than working fot a corporation.

Or the parallel of working for a union and them losing their "bargaining" power and not liking the result. Too bad, you can quit and go to work elsewhere, eh?