On 6/27/2013 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.


In all fairness, I might be screaming too reaching for a weapon while
someone was trying to kill me...

On 6/27/13 4:52 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/27/2013 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.


In all fairness, I might be screaming too reaching for a weapon while
someone was trying to kill me...

You walk the streets of your neighborhood with a firearm, eh?

On 6/27/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:17:58 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Pass a law to ban this:

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/26...acked-her-home


And a gun locked in a safe would have prevented this HOW?

You buy a safe that is quick opening like this

http://www.gunsafes.com/GunVault-Min...1000C-DLX.html

Put it in your "safe room" (with a door that locks) and retreat there
and lock the door when you first think you are in trouble.
That buys you the 5 seconds you need to open the safe and retrieve
your gun. It also gives you a very good legal defense if the bad guy
kicks in the door and you shoot him, even in the "obligation to
retreat" states.

A big dog will give you even more time.


None of this is necessary, of course, if you come across a kid on the
street carrying a soft drink and a bag of candy. Just shoot him. Make
sure you are in Florida, of course.

It's not quite that simple. There is some necessary preparation. First
you need to position the 200lb kid face down on the pavement and get him
to scrape his knuckles. Then you need to bloddy the back of your head
and break your nose. Finally, you need to lie on your back, shimmy under
the boy thug and carefully place a 9mm slug in his chest cavity. All
while no one is looking.

On 6/27/2013 2:15 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 2:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:54:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Been watching the trial this morning. Tough call on the witness. On
one hand she comes across as being genuine, but she also comes
across
as being somewhat arrogant and disrespectful. Not sure how the jury
is going to be influenced.

===

She seems to have "remembered" a lot of extra details since her
original depositions. I wonder who coached her.

------------------------------------------

According to her, "she got some sleep".

She sure sounds like she was counseled and maybe even coached though.
She seems unable to recall, speak coherently to general, softball
questions or even understand them. But when it comes to critical
elements of the case, she seems to become much more attentive, alert
and specific in how she answers. If her answers accurately reflect
her recollections, that's good. But if they are based on being
"schooled" in preparation of her court testimony and not necessarily
what she remembers, then this trial is a joke.

Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?


Virtually all witnesses in criminal trials are coached.

Ahhh, but don't get caught coaching the witness to remember things that
didn't happen, or to remember things differently than they were
remembered in deposition. bad things could happen to the coach and the
coachee.

On 6/27/2013 4:48 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 4:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.

I didn't ask whether he said anything (yet). I asked do you think that
Zimmerman wasn't counseled one what to say, how to act, etc.? You are SO
positive that Martin beat Zimmerman, but what about the simple, easy
fact that there was NO DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin? Did he sanitize his
hands before gasping his last breath?


If Zimmerman were Black and alive, and Martin were white and dead, the
Fox-ites would claim Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted.

You are quite the racist Eh Krauseburger?

On 6/27/2013 4:59 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 4:52 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/27/2013 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.


In all fairness, I might be screaming too reaching for a weapon while
someone was trying to kill me...

You walk the streets of your neighborhood with a firearm, eh?

Why not, Since there were prior crimes committed in the neighborhood?

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/27/13 4:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how
to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear
witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating
the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.

I didn't ask whether he said anything (yet). I asked do you think
that
Zimmerman wasn't counseled one what to say, how to act, etc.? You
are SO
positive that Martin beat Zimmerman, but what about the simple, easy
fact that there was NO DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin? Did he sanitize
his
hands before gasping his last breath?


If Zimmerman were Black and alive, and Martin were white and dead, the
Fox-ites would claim Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted.

-------------------------------------------

I didn't follow the early reports of this event closely. Didn't
Zimmerman have some bloody head wounds immediately following the
altercation?
Seems like I remember seeing or hearing about that in news reports.
If so, how did he get them?

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:42:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 6/27/13 11:29 AM, wrote:

None of this is necessary, of course, if you come across a kid on
the
street carrying a soft drink and a bag of candy. Just shoot him.
Make
sure you are in Florida, of course.

You keep leaving out the "punch in the nose" and "beat your head on
the concrete" part

Yeah, and the best part about that, absolutely NO Zimmerman DNA on the
kids hands.....

---------------------------------------------------

Assuming the reports of injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head are
accurate, how did he get them?

On 6/27/13 5:25 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/27/13 4:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.

I didn't ask whether he said anything (yet). I asked do you think that
Zimmerman wasn't counseled one what to say, how to act, etc.? You are SO
positive that Martin beat Zimmerman, but what about the simple, easy
fact that there was NO DNA of Zimmerman's on Martin? Did he sanitize his
hands before gasping his last breath?


If Zimmerman were Black and alive, and Martin were white and dead, the
Fox-ites would claim Zimmerman's wounds were self-inflicted.

-------------------------------------------

I didn't follow the early reports of this event closely. Didn't
Zimmerman have some bloody head wounds immediately following the
altercation?
Seems like I remember seeing or hearing about that in news reports. If
so, how did he get them?



Beats me. No witnesses. Maybe he was with a buddy who, after Zimmerman
shot the kid, bashed him about the head so it would look like self
defense, eh?

On 6/27/2013 5:11 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/27/2013 4:59 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/27/13 4:52 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/27/2013 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:03:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



Do you suppose that Zimmerman wasn't counseled on what to say, how to
act, etc?

Zimmerman has not said a word and I doubt he will although his meek
and soft voice might go a long way toward dismissing the ear witness
testimony about who was screaming for help. O'Mara has the police
tapes for that tho.
I think he was crying like a little girl when Martin was beating the
**** out of him but that just backs up the self defense claim.


In all fairness, I might be screaming too reaching for a weapon while
someone was trying to kill me...

You walk the streets of your neighborhood with a firearm, eh?

Why not, Since there were prior crimes committed in the neighborhood?

Even had a murder about a mile away a couple years back. Yup, it was
nuts but the Cops did try to buy an Armored Vehicle and start a town
SWAT team! Not sure if we got it yet though.