On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:

Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.





I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are

responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times

higher in the United States than it is in Canada.



Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in

murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics

about which to brag, eh?

John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale.
I just responded that none was needed.

On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:28:17 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.

According to the NRA, you're always safer with a gun.

You could shoot a boat out of the water that was threatening you,
after all.

Or sink it before it got to you, if you have a fully automatic machine
gun. Bullet holes in a hull dampen lift dramatically.

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.

On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse
outboard and fishes for stripers.

In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse
outboard and fishes for stripers.

True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish
out of from time to time.

On 6/14/2013 2:01 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse
outboard and fishes for stripers.

Um, I do.... Try a 12 foot boat with a 3 horse.... and I love stripers.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


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T do not ever remember Gretwell mocking a small boat. Heck, I ocean fish
at times out of Hobie Outback. More comfortable trolling for salmon out of
the Jetcraft.