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On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... |
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On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank© wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. |
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On 5/31/2013 11:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... You could drop a used doublewide on the property and have enough left over for supper. ;-) |
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On 5/31/2013 11:41 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 11:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... You could drop a used doublewide on the property and have enough left over for supper. ;-) That's what I am thinking, then we need a couple pens and run in's for the animals... Our guy is all natural, no shoes, no barn, no blankets in winter but they do need a good runin for days like today or in uncomfortable weather in winter. A small barn is good too for emergency and medical... |
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On May 31, 9:51*am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote: ...yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass.. *SNERK! At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. What does your lightweight boat get? He's too ****ing stupid to figure it out...... |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:23:33 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. Wayne, is that optimal and only goes downhill from there?! ==== If you increase speed over 8.5 kts it goes down hill very quickly. The best I've ever been able to do is 1.4 nautical miles per gallon. That was running down current in flat water on a single engine, at a little over 7 kts. Running 7 kts on twin engines is problematic because that puts you barely over idle speed which is not good for long term durability. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:38:07 -0400, Hank©
wrote: 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. ========= Interesting. That's a very narrow beam for a 37 footer, even if it was a 37 ft sailboat which I assume it's not. I'd be interested in seeing a picture even if no one else is. Hopefully this place will lighten up a bit if U-No-Hoo stays AWOL. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:23:33 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. Wayne, is that optimal and only goes downhill from there?! ==== If you increase speed over 8.5 kts it goes down hill very quickly. The best I've ever been able to do is 1.4 nautical miles per gallon. That was running down current in flat water on a single engine, at a little over 7 kts. Running 7 kts on twin engines is problematic because that puts you barely over idle speed which is not good for long term durability. ----------------------------------------- I guess that was a small advantage of Mrs.E's 36' GB with the single 120hp diesel. Cruise was about 7 knots burning about 1.5 gph. But, there was no option to go much faster. I think 9 knots was about wide open. Plus, I'd never trust a single engine for the kind of cruising that you guys do. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 14:38:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I'd never trust a single engine for the kind of cruising that you guys do. ==== That was our thinking when we bought the boat and it has paid off. We've experienced more than a few single engine shut downs and none of them were more than a minor inconvenience (aside from the problem resolution). We have two generators also, and that has paid off more times than I can remember. There are still a few single points of failure like the anchor windlass and autopilot but we have work arounds for most contingencies. |
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