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Everyone here presumably has some interest in boats, boating, fishing,
water sports, etc. We need to hear more about it. Here's a possible starting list of topics for future posts: 1. What kind of boat(s) do you have or want to have? 2. What are its good or not so good qualities? 3. Where do you use, or want to use your boat? 4. What are some of the interesting places or features of that area? 5. How do you use, or want to use your boat? 6. Do you fish? If so what has been biting recently? Any future trips planned? What kind of bait/lures do you use? 7. Do you participate in any water sports like skiing, tubing, wake boarding, kite surfing, competitive sailing, etc. ? 8. Are you doing any maintenance or boat improvement projects? 9. Have you ever built a boat or are you thinking about it? 10. What kind of electronics do you have or would like to have for your boat? Any maintenance issues? 11. What kind of engines do you have, how many, horsepower, type, etc. ? Are they running OK? How much fuel do they use? 12. If you could improve just one thing about your boat, what would it be? I've probably just scratched the surface here in a few minutes time so feel free to contribute some suggestions and help grow the list. Let's see how many possible topics we can come up with. Just puting our heads together on creating a topic list should be an interesting excercise that we can all relate to. |
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On May 30, 11:52*pm, Wayne B wrote:
Everyone here presumably has some interest in boats, boating, fishing, water sports, etc. * We need to hear more about it. * Here's a possible starting list of topics for future posts: 1. *What kind of boat(s) do you have or want to have? 2. *What are its good or not so good qualities? 3. *Where do you use, or want to use your boat? 4. *What are some of the interesting places or features of that area? 5. *How do you use, or want to use your boat? 6. *Do you fish? *If so what has been biting recently? *Any future trips planned? *What kind of bait/lures do you use? 7. *Do you participate in any water sports like skiing, tubing, wake boarding, kite surfing, competitive sailing, etc. ? 8. *Are you doing any maintenance or boat improvement projects? 9. *Have you ever built a boat or are you thinking about it? 10. *What kind of electronics do you have or would like to have for your boat? * Any maintenance issues? 11. *What kind of engines do you have, how many, horsepower, type, etc. ? *Are they running OK? *How much fuel do they use? 12. *If you could improve just one thing about your boat, what would it be? I've probably just scratched the surface here in a few minutes time so feel free to contribute some suggestions and help grow the list. Let's see how many possible topics we can come up with. *Just puting our heads together on creating a topic list should be an interesting excercise that we can all relate to. It's been tried before, but with **** in here like Krause, and his " cockhole " Donnie, that's impossible. |
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...yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass. SNERK!
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On 5/31/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
...yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass. SNERK! At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. What does your lightweight boat get? |
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On 5/31/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote:
..yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass. SNERK! There you go again... Now tell us again why you can't post a picture of your boat? Maybe it's because of posts like this one. Anyway Wayne. As you all know I am interested in building my own. My daughter has started to ask about building a river cruiser, maybe it's time to whip up those plans I was finishing before I moved up here. I had just run them by a Naval Architect friends' drawing board, he added one inch to the transom at chine two and I faired it into the rest of the hull, and it was ready to go... Then my dad called. I also have a planked Whaler clone type 20 footer that would make a great bass boat.. Might just build that one too. Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank©
wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: Sure, once you tell us who "us" is..... === Is that really necessary? Why not contribute something boating related? How is Lake Lanier doing these days? |
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On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... |
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On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank© wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. |
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On 5/31/2013 11:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... You could drop a used doublewide on the property and have enough left over for supper. ;-) |
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On 5/31/2013 11:41 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 11:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. I hope it works out for you. I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anysay, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... You could drop a used doublewide on the property and have enough left over for supper. ;-) That's what I am thinking, then we need a couple pens and run in's for the animals... Our guy is all natural, no shoes, no barn, no blankets in winter but they do need a good runin for days like today or in uncomfortable weather in winter. A small barn is good too for emergency and medical... |
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On May 31, 9:51*am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote: ...yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass.. *SNERK! At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. What does your lightweight boat get? He's too ****ing stupid to figure it out...... |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:23:33 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. Wayne, is that optimal and only goes downhill from there?! ==== If you increase speed over 8.5 kts it goes down hill very quickly. The best I've ever been able to do is 1.4 nautical miles per gallon. That was running down current in flat water on a single engine, at a little over 7 kts. Running 7 kts on twin engines is problematic because that puts you barely over idle speed which is not good for long term durability. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:38:07 -0400, Hank©
wrote: 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. ========= Interesting. That's a very narrow beam for a 37 footer, even if it was a 37 ft sailboat which I assume it's not. I'd be interested in seeing a picture even if no one else is. Hopefully this place will lighten up a bit if U-No-Hoo stays AWOL. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:23:33 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. Wayne, is that optimal and only goes downhill from there?! ==== If you increase speed over 8.5 kts it goes down hill very quickly. The best I've ever been able to do is 1.4 nautical miles per gallon. That was running down current in flat water on a single engine, at a little over 7 kts. Running 7 kts on twin engines is problematic because that puts you barely over idle speed which is not good for long term durability. ----------------------------------------- I guess that was a small advantage of Mrs.E's 36' GB with the single 120hp diesel. Cruise was about 7 knots burning about 1.5 gph. But, there was no option to go much faster. I think 9 knots was about wide open. Plus, I'd never trust a single engine for the kind of cruising that you guys do. |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 14:38:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I'd never trust a single engine for the kind of cruising that you guys do. ==== That was our thinking when we bought the boat and it has paid off. We've experienced more than a few single engine shut downs and none of them were more than a minor inconvenience (aside from the problem resolution). We have two generators also, and that has paid off more times than I can remember. There are still a few single points of failure like the anchor windlass and autopilot but we have work arounds for most contingencies. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 May 2013 14:38:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I'd never trust a single engine for the kind of cruising that you guys do. ==== That was our thinking when we bought the boat and it has paid off. We've experienced more than a few single engine shut downs and none of them were more than a minor inconvenience (aside from the problem resolution). We have two generators also, and that has paid off more times than I can remember. There are still a few single points of failure like the anchor windlass and autopilot but we have work arounds for most contingencies. ------------------------------------------------ Yeah, the one we had had quite an interesting log book. The previous owner had taken it everywhere imaginable, even to the west coast via the Panama Canal. I never ventured more than a few miles offshore with it because the engine had over 7000 hours on it. It always ran though and never had a problem with it. The only problem I ever had with diesels was with the Navigator. It was the first season I had it and was on the way to Florida. Pulled into some marina in Delaware somewhere due to a heavy thunderstorm and after we tied up I couldn't shut one of the engines down. Both the flybridge control key and the pilothouse control key did nothing. Engine just sat there idling. After about an hour and a phone call to the dealer who then had a Volvo rep call me, I learned about the manual fuel shut off lever mounted on the side of the engine. That finally stopped it but the troubleshooting began to determine why the key wouldn't shut it off. Turns out turning and holding the key to the hard left powers a solenoid in the fuel line that stops fuel flow and kills the engine. There was a "resettable fuse" on the control box that had popped. Reset it and never had the problem again in the 9 years we had the boat. Guess that's how you learn. |
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On May 31, 9:00*am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 5/31/2013 7:58 AM, True North wrote: ..yet you and your MiniMan clone add so much to the newsgroup, Jackass. *SNERK! There you go again... *Now tell us again why you can't post a picture of your boat? Maybe it's because of posts like this one. Anyway Wayne. As you all know I am interested in building my own. My daughter has started to ask about building a river cruiser, maybe it's time to whip up those plans I was finishing before I moved up here. I had just run them by a Naval Architect friends' drawing board, he added one inch to the transom at chine two and I faired it into the rest of the hull, and it was ready to go... Then my dad called. I also have a planked Whaler clone type 20 footer that would make a great bass boat.. Might just build that one too. Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... Excellent idea, Scott. I've seen pics of your finished work and remember some of your graphic hull designs you've posted in the way past. . I really think you should get back into it... |
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On May 31, 10:31*am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:53 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:03:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Right now we are consolidating and paying off a couple bills, then we are selling both homes and moving to the woods to do our own thing. For me, that may just be building boats again... === Cool. *I hope it works out for you. *I used to enjoy seeing the pictures of your strip planked canoes in the "BackYardRenegade" days. Strip planked canoes were all the rage 10 to 15 years ago. The "rec.boats.building" group used to be full of posts from people who were building them or thinking about it. * I once saw a nice one on top of a car up in Maine. Yup, looking at a piece of property over in the eastern part of the state. 100 yards of frontage on a local trout river with a public right of way boat launch in the corner of the property. The river leads down about a 100 yard run to a huge lake.. The other side of the property has 20 acres of cleared meadow for the horses. And the next "Property" over happens to have a 50 acre motocross track (from the air views) but I don't know who owns it, and then off to hundreds of acres of state forest... Anyway, we could sell both homes, pay our bills off an afford it but it would leave us with less than 50 grand and there is no house on the property yet... Houseboat, dude!! Tie to the dock and live aboard! |
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On May 31, 10:38*am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. *That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. *In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 * *cruising at a modest 52 kts. * *37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough * water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a 2 ton dingy??? |
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On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a 2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. |
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On May 31, 9:34*pm, Hank© wrote:
On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. *That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. *In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 * * cruising at a modest 52 kts. * * 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough * *water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a *2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. LOL! Yeah, I actually did before I posted... |
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"Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a 2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. ------------------------------------------------------ My lips are sealed. |
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On May 31, 10:19*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Hank©" *wrote in message eb.com... On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. *That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. *In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 * * cruising at a modest 52 kts. * * 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough * *water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a *2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. ------------------------------------------------------ My lips are sealed. Too bad the handymans hull work wasn't as efficient!! |
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:19:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Hank©" wrote in message web.com... On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a 2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. ------------------------------------------------------ My lips are sealed. ==== Land yacht. |
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On Jun 1, 6:09*am, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:19:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Hank©" *wrote in message web.com... On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. *That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. *In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 * * cruising at a modest 52 kts. * * 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough * *water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a *2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. ------------------------------------------------------ My lips are sealed. ==== Land yacht. yepper... |
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On 6/1/2013 11:56 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:09 am, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 23:19:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 5/31/2013 10:18 PM, Tim wrote: On May 31, 10:38 am, Hank© wrote: On 5/31/2013 10:46 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 09:51:05 -0400, Hank wrote: At cruising speed,my boat gets 6.7 GPH towing a dingy. === Gas or diesel, what kind of boat? We use about 8 gph towing a dinghy in flat water/no wind. That's with twin diesels running at 8 to 8.5 kts. In rough water we hoist the dinghy up on deck. 9.3 L 570ci 350 hp 1150 ft-lb International single straight 6 cruising at a modest 52 kts. 37'4" long, Beam 8' 4", Approx 15t, and towing 3700lb dingy. In rough water we will sink. That's more information than some of the scaredy cats in rec.boats are willing to reveal. Cruising at a modest 52 knots and a 2 ton dingy??? I'm sure you'll figure it out, Tim. ------------------------------------------------------ My lips are sealed. ==== Land yacht. yepper... My lips are sealed too. |
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