JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/24/2013 6:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

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On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:54:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"BAR" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:02:37 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


I am not advocating a background check every time you buy a gun.
The
background check is done once to obtain a permit.


Why should I have to obtain a permit in order to exercise one of my
civil rights?

Do you advocate a permit for speaking freely?

Do you advocate a permit for going to church?

Do you advocate a permit for registering to vote.

The issue is one not having to ask permission to provide yourself
with
the means to protect
yourself. ...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not
be infringed.

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A requirement to obtain a gun permit with an accompanying background
check does not infringe on your rights. Your interpretation of the
2nd Amendment suggests that *everyone*, regardless of age and
including convicted felons should be able to own a gun, no
questions
asked. Furthermore, it would seem that current laws that prevent
them
from owning a gun are unconstitutional as are firearms laws in many
states that already require a permit and background check, based on
your logic.

As for your other questions, give me a break, will ya? Comparing
gun ownership and it's responsibilities with the right to attend the
church of your choice is a pretty stupid argument against gun permits
and background checks. Plus, I'll repeat again, having to obtain a
permit is *not* a restriction of your rights.

I good number of us submit to this voluntarily to get the right to
carry. I am exempt from background checks and waiting periods.

I also used to own a legal machine gun so I am no stranger to
background checks.

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The requirements to simply "own" a firearm and the requirements to own
and carry in public (concealed or open) are different.

Guilty before charged. Also known as prior restraint.

A permit is required for concealed or open carry in most states. It's
also why some (like MA) is a "may" and "shall" state as far as the
issuance of permits go. Neither violate anyone's right to own a
firearm. The only reason a permit will not be issued is if you have
a felony record and are legally not eligible to own one. *That* is
the purpose of a cursory background check. That's all. It's not to
"take away" your rights unless you deserve to have them taken.

Geeze. Why is this so hard for people t to understand?

We don't want to have to obtain permission from the government to
conduct the affairs of our
daily lives.


And we don't want our taxes, healthcare, finance attacked because of my political views...

No one in government gives a **** about your political views.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:21:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I was just returning to Wayne some of the crap he was dishing out to me.

====

You should have some Cheerios and milk with those sour grapes of yours
- very tasty breakfast for one with a such a sour disposition.

How are you doing with those unpaid taxes and bankruptcy judgements?

On 6/24/13 9:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:21:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I was just returning to Wayne some of the crap he was dishing out to me.

====

You should have some Cheerios and milk with those sour grapes of yours
- very tasty breakfast for one with a such a sour disposition.

How are you doing with those unpaid taxes and bankruptcy judgements?



Another example of W'hine not behaving here as he often exhorts other to do.

Sorry, W'hine, but there is nothing in your life that would give me a
case of sour grapes.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:21:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I was just returning to Wayne some of the crap he was dishing out to me.

====

You should have some Cheerios and milk with those sour grapes of yours
- very tasty breakfast for one with a such a sour disposition.

How are you doing with those unpaid taxes and bankruptcy judgements?


I don't get it. Don't you purport to be a "gentleman?"
Whether your accusations are true of not can only make a
difference in defining you as rude, or a scoundrel.
Neither is acceptable in a forum of gentlemen.
Oh, wait.....

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:57:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:00:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm hoping my ashes will be airdropped on the naked California gals
who
sunbathe near Paradise Beach near Santa Monica.

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You should study French in the hope that your ashes could be dropped
on the naked European gals who sunbathe on the beaches at St Martins
and St Barths - overall a cut or two above the Californians and you
don't have all of that annoying "valley girl" talk.

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Hopefully not dropped from a plane landing at the airport:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...IJ0F62og4&NR=1

===

I woukd not want to land *anything* at that airport let alone a 747.
It is one scary looking runway located at the bottom of a hill. There
are several roads and a traffic circle at the top of the hill, and off
to the side there is a large cross marking the location of one major
crash. From our anchorage at Shell Beach we could see the planes on
final approach as they would just clear the roadway and go into a
steep dive down the hill to the runway.

http://www.google.com/imgres?start=295&hl=en&biw=1006&bih=579&tbm=isch&t bnid=0c-_r6FEIGDuRM:&imgrefurl=http://voyagelusting.com/2013/05/13/voyage-lusting-treats/st-barth-summer/&docid=7Dc7zR8qomJrsM&imgurl=http://voyagelusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MG_8248-2.jpg&w=600&h=400&ei=EPHIUevZApL49gSnm4DoBg&zoom=1 &ved=1t:3588,r:99,s:200,i:301&iact=rc&page=25&tbnh =178&tbnw=275&ndsp=13&tx=131&ty=94

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=100 6&bih=579&q=shell+beach+st+barths&oq=shell+beach+s t+barths&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.252299.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. 0..0.0...0.0...1ac..17.img.6GPh3zz1lhg

On 6/24/13 9:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:21:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I was just returning to Wayne some of the crap he was dishing out to me.

====

You should have some Cheerios and milk with those sour grapes of yours
- very tasty breakfast for one with a such a sour disposition.

How are you doing with those unpaid taxes and bankruptcy judgements?


I don't get it. Don't you purport to be a "gentleman?"
Whether your accusations are true of not can only make a
difference in defining you as rude, or a scoundrel.
Neither is acceptable in a forum of gentlemen.
Oh, wait.....



W'hine often exhorts others to behave as he doesn't, and he's been doing
it for a long time. The reality is, he's just another of the many snarky
right-wingers in here. W'hine's retired from his job as a bankster
facilitator for Citibank.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:11:43 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Harry is still quite a bit light in satisfying his financial
obligations to his creditors. We
would appreciate it if Harry would make us whole again by paying all
of his back taxes in
full.

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That subject keeps bring brought up here by some. Personally, I have
no first hand knowledge of it and it's none of my business anyway.

===

It's true. I've seen the documents which are all a matter of public
record.

On 6/24/2013 9:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:57:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:00:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm hoping my ashes will be airdropped on the naked California gals
who
sunbathe near Paradise Beach near Santa Monica.

=====

You should study French in the hope that your ashes could be dropped
on the naked European gals who sunbathe on the beaches at St Martins
and St Barths - overall a cut or two above the Californians and you
don't have all of that annoying "valley girl" talk.

------------------------------------

Hopefully not dropped from a plane landing at the airport:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...IJ0F62og4&NR=1

===

I woukd not want to land *anything* at that airport let alone a 747.
It is one scary looking runway located at the bottom of a hill. There
are several roads and a traffic circle at the top of the hill, and off
to the side there is a large cross marking the location of one major
crash. From our anchorage at Shell Beach we could see the planes on
final approach as they would just clear the roadway and go into a
steep dive down the hill to the runway.

http://www.google.com/imgres?start=295&hl=en&biw=1006&bih=579&tbm=isch&t bnid=0c-_r6FEIGDuRM:&imgrefurl=http://voyagelusting.com/2013/05/13/voyage-lusting-treats/st-barth-summer/&docid=7Dc7zR8qomJrsM&imgurl=http://voyagelusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MG_8248-2.jpg&w=600&h=400&ei=EPHIUevZApL49gSnm4DoBg&zoom=1 &ved=1t:3588,r:99,s:200,i:301&iact=rc&page=25&tbnh =178&tbnw=275&ndsp=13&tx=131&ty=94

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=100 6&bih=579&q=shell+beach+st+barths&oq=shell+beach+s t+barths&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.252299.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. 0..0.0...0.0...1ac..17.img.6GPh3zz1lhg




It's in there...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOTuo1vdDkk

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:11:43 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Harry is still quite a bit light in satisfying his financial
obligations to his creditors. We
would appreciate it if Harry would make us whole again by paying all
of his back taxes in
full.

----------------------------------

That subject keeps bring brought up here by some. Personally, I have
no first hand knowledge of it and it's none of my business anyway.

===

It's true. I've seen the documents which are all a matter of public
record.

My dear sir, surely you don't expect decent people to pry
into the private affairs of others. Nor take as truth
the mutterings of an admitted snoop?
Please desist from this conduct.
You are only serving to degrade this fine forum,
dedicated to the love of boats.
Oh, wait...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:23:12 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:21:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I was just returning to Wayne some of the crap he was dishing out to me.

====

You should have some Cheerios and milk with those sour grapes of yours
- very tasty breakfast for one with a such a sour disposition.

How are you doing with those unpaid taxes and bankruptcy judgements?


I don't get it. Don't you purport to be a "gentleman?"
Whether your accusations are true of not can only make a
difference in defining you as rude, or a scoundrel.

===

Point taken, however:

1. They are not accusations - well documented facts if you know
where to look.

2. If you have followed Harry's "act" here for any length of time you
must realize that he is no stranger to rudeness and invariably throws
the first stone.

3. He's very good at dishing it out but puts on his best wounded face
when it starts coming back at him.