On 6/22/2013 8:08 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:33:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:25:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


You are talking about universal registration, not background checks.
Otherwise there is no "paper trail".

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Nope. I am talking about universal background checks, "universal"
meaning it is required in all states in a uniform way.
Not talking about having to register all the guns you purchase.

The background check simply verifies that you are not a felon, crazy
or otherwise not permitted to own a gun. In MA, it's done at the
time
you apply for a permit and the reason it takes so long is because
they
actually *do* an FBI background check on you. Once it's done and
the
permit is issued, the only other "check" is done whenever you
purchase a firearm. It's to verify that your permit is valid and in
good standing, you are who you claim you are and there are no
warrants etc., since getting the permit. Only takes a few minutes.


The only way you can enforce a universal background check for private
transfers is to have universal registration. That is what they are not
telling you.

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What I was told is that the defeated background check legislation
contained a provision for a 15 year prison sentence for anyone
involved in creating a gun registry. But you know what? I am far
from being considered a liberal or progressive in my overall political
persuasion but I don't see any problem with a gun registry, even
though it was never proposed. It's not a violation of anyone's
constitutional rights to bear arms. The 2nd Amendment doesn't
contain any such language. I think having guns registered to their
owners is an excellent idea. And now I'll hear from all those tin
hat wearers claiming the government is coming to take all the guns
away. Won't happen unless the 2nd Amendment is repealed. What's the
chances of that happening? Zero.




How big a bureaucracy will we need to manage the registration process, the registration change
process, the background check process. the records keeping process, the office cleaning process, and
the all expense paid vacation (I mean 'team building') process?

John H.

Well, Barry did promise to *create* jobs out of thin air.