On 5/16/13 11:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/16/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:10:53 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I don't know much about android but PC users might want an OS that
will run a week or two without a reboot, either from a crash or an
update. They would also like one with a stable API so you don't need
to update your OS for the next big thing, usually requiring a new
machine.. Windoze is the last vestige of planned obsolescence

Because of the complexity of the operating systems of today, I doubt
that's possible.

The problem is that the OS is all encompassing with things that should
be optional, being coded right into the OS. It is unnecessary
complexity but part of the Microsoft monopoly thinking.
I need the same OS to take a few hundred bytes a minute from my
weather station and post it on the web as I would use to run a small
publishing company


But what is it that the system "doesn't" do for you? What part of the
system is keeping you from doing what you could do without it??


OSX has never locked up on me in the middle of a long word processing
document between auto saves. Windows did.

On 5/16/2013 11:41 AM, thumper wrote:
On 5/16/2013 7:00 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 07:29:08 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

Between Windoze and Androis, who's "needs" are not being met?

I don't know much about android but PC users might want an OS that
will run a week or two without a reboot, either from a crash or an
update. They would also like one with a stable API so you don't need
to update your OS for the next big thing, usually requiring a new
machine.. Windoze is the last vestige of planned obsolescence

Our IC design CAD tools from Cadence, Synopsys, Ansys, Mentor Graphics,
etc. all run on redhat Linux for those reasons.


I run Cadkey, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Macromedia Flash, Corel Draw and
several other pretty intense programs... all on a Windoze Laptop for
three years now.

I5 chip, running at 2.27
64 bit
only 4 gig ram...

Does fine, can't remember the last time I crashed it...

On 5/16/2013 11:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/16/13 11:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/16/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:10:53 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I don't know much about android but PC users might want an OS that
will run a week or two without a reboot, either from a crash or an
update. They would also like one with a stable API so you don't need
to update your OS for the next big thing, usually requiring a new
machine.. Windoze is the last vestige of planned obsolescence

Because of the complexity of the operating systems of today, I doubt
that's possible.

The problem is that the OS is all encompassing with things that should
be optional, being coded right into the OS. It is unnecessary
complexity but part of the Microsoft monopoly thinking.
I need the same OS to take a few hundred bytes a minute from my
weather station and post it on the web as I would use to run a small
publishing company


But what is it that the system "doesn't" do for you? What part of the
system is keeping you from doing what you could do without it??


OSX has never locked up on me in the middle of a long word processing
document between auto saves. Windows did.

Fool. If you anticipate it locking up, you should autosave more often

On 5/16/2013 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 11:36:29 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/16/2013 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:10:53 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I don't know much about android but PC users might want an OS that
will run a week or two without a reboot, either from a crash or an
update. They would also like one with a stable API so you don't need
to update your OS for the next big thing, usually requiring a new
machine.. Windoze is the last vestige of planned obsolescence

Because of the complexity of the operating systems of today, I doubt
that's possible.

The problem is that the OS is all encompassing with things that should
be optional, being coded right into the OS. It is unnecessary
complexity but part of the Microsoft monopoly thinking.
I need the same OS to take a few hundred bytes a minute from my
weather station and post it on the web as I would use to run a small
publishing company


But what is it that the system "doesn't" do for you? What part of the
system is keeping you from doing what you could do without it??

It is the amount of bloatware I need to drag around for such a mundane
task and I was actually buying new, the cost.
It is like being forced to buy a class A motor home, just to drive a
few miles to work.
Linux would be a good alternative but the number of hardware
manufacturers who support it are limited because MS has such a
monopoly share of the market.


So, if you strip the "bloatware" from the system, what would be the
benefit? Systems would be more proprietary like in the 80's and a base
system would cost 2 grand... It would not be a smaller system, still you
need a decent screen to work anyway, I just don't see what you are
suffering carrying around a few million extra bits of info on a chip as
small as your fingernail (nothing at all like having to carry around a
"class A motor home")...It is a system designed to handle as much of
what the average person throws at it as possible. If you need more than
that to run your company, it's time to hire some programmers and build
that system.

We had a company a few years back that needed such a propritary system
for their business, they paid us thousands to build it. For 99% of the
world population, Windoze will do anything they need it to do.

On 5/16/13 12:47 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


We had a company a few years back that needed such a propritary system
for their business, they paid us thousands to build it.

Bull****. Morons don't have the ability to program operating systems.

On 5/16/13 11:47 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/16/2013 11:41 AM, thumper wrote:
On 5/16/2013 7:00 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 07:29:08 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

Between Windoze and Androis, who's "needs" are not being met?

I don't know much about android but PC users might want an OS that
will run a week or two without a reboot, either from a crash or an
update. They would also like one with a stable API so you don't need
to update your OS for the next big thing, usually requiring a new
machine.. Windoze is the last vestige of planned obsolescence

Our IC design CAD tools from Cadence, Synopsys, Ansys, Mentor Graphics,
etc. all run on redhat Linux for those reasons.


I run Cadkey, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Macromedia Flash, Corel Draw and
several other pretty intense programs... all on a Windoze Laptop for
three years now.

I5 chip, running at 2.27
64 bit
only 4 gig ram...

Does fine, can't remember the last time I crashed it...


From what I have seen of your work, you'd do better with an eight color
box of Crayolas.

SNERK

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 13 May 2013 16:29:33 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 5/13/2013 2:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


After hundreds of workers were killed in Bangladesh when the factory
they worked at making clothes collapsed, Pope Francis took a moment
during his May Day homily to pray for the victims and their families as
well as condemn the labor practices that took their lives.

?How many brothers and sisters find themselves in this situation!?
said the pontiff referring to the unfair and unsafe working conditions
around the world. ?Not paying fairly, not giving a job because you are
only looking at balance sheets, only looking at how to make a profit.
That goes against God!?

He couldn?t believe that the workers inside the factory were only making
roughly 38 Euros ($50) per month calling the deplorable conditions and
pay ?slave labor.? Workers who subsequently died.

?I call on politicians to make every effort to relaunch the labor
market,? said Pope Francis who went on to say that unemployment is, ?an
economic conception of society based on selfish profit outside the
bounds of social justice.? He also said, ?We do not get dignity from
power or money or culture, no! We get dignity from work.?

The Vatican has spoken against economic inequality throughout the
economic collapse of recent years, and has been often very critical of
unregulated capitalism and the harm it inflicts.

http://tinyurl.com/d4vq8uf

Where's the garment workers union when you need it?

====

Running a factory without making a profit apparently goes against god
also because he will close it down in no time at all. Interesting
that Harry should take such a sudden interest in the teachings of the
pope.

If there is no profit how is the church going to get its cut?

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 13 May 2013 16:29:33 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 5/13/2013 2:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


After hundreds of workers were killed in Bangladesh when the factory
they worked at making clothes collapsed, Pope Francis took a moment
during his May Day homily to pray for the victims and their families as
well as condemn the labor practices that took their lives.

?How many brothers and sisters find themselves in this situation!?
said the pontiff referring to the unfair and unsafe working conditions
around the world. ?Not paying fairly, not giving a job because you are
only looking at balance sheets, only looking at how to make a profit.
That goes against God!?

He couldn?t believe that the workers inside the factory were only making
roughly 38 Euros ($50) per month calling the deplorable conditions and
pay ?slave labor.? Workers who subsequently died.

?I call on politicians to make every effort to relaunch the labor
market,? said Pope Francis who went on to say that unemployment is, ?an
economic conception of society based on selfish profit outside the
bounds of social justice.? He also said, ?We do not get dignity from
power or money or culture, no! We get dignity from work.?

The Vatican has spoken against economic inequality throughout the
economic collapse of recent years, and has been often very critical of
unregulated capitalism and the harm it inflicts.

http://tinyurl.com/d4vq8uf

Where's the garment workers union when you need it?

====

Running a factory without making a profit apparently goes against god
also because he will close it down in no time at all. Interesting
that Harry should take such a sudden interest in the teachings of the
pope.

If there is no profit how is the church going to get its cut?

You're not kidding there, the church sure wants there share of grift.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 15 May 2013 12:23:58 -0400, wrote:

Most of his life was devoted to crushing any competition and
maintaining his monopoly.

====

And he was very good at that. Very very good. Greedy? Absolutely,
but that was the driving force that made WINDOWS the most popular
operating system of all time, and made PC technology and the internet
accessible by virtually everyone regardlesss of technical expertise.

No small accomplishment. It required brilliant vision, dedicated
leadership and focus, not to mention a huge amount of work.

Microsoft had to be pulled kicking and screaming to network their computers.

Does anyone remember Novell.