On 2-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

"Wall Street" employs money shufflers; core industries employ marketing
staff, designers, engineers, management, tool makers, steel producers,
capital machinery and millions of support positions


bull**** bull**** and bull****.

in the last 10 y ears wall street went from 20% to 40% of GDP.

what did that add to the economy of the US?

nothing

You must be on drugs - THAT'S WHAT I SAID

you right wingers blame the middle class for EVERYTHING and blame wall
street for NOTHING

I blame the amazingly ignorant "American" assholes for how they vote and
spend their money. YOU are the economy, not some assholes in congress or
the White House, yet you want them to correct your behavior.

There is no left or right, there are 2 childish groups that argue to get 1)
ratings and 2) the ignorant masses to elect/reelect them.

that's your problem. you hate the middle class

The middle class is shrinking and will be miniscule thanks to your voting
and purchasing habits.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:01:42 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 2-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

"Wall Street" employs money shufflers; core industries employ marketing
staff, designers, engineers, management, tool makers, steel producers,
capital machinery and millions of support positions


bull**** bull**** and bull****.

in the last 10 y ears wall street went from 20% to 40% of GDP.

what did that add to the economy of the US?

nothing

You must be on drugs - THAT'S WHAT I SAID

you right wingers blame the middle class for EVERYTHING and blame wall
street for NOTHING

I blame the amazingly ignorant "American" assholes for how they vote and
spend their money. YOU are the economy, not some assholes in congress or
the White House, yet you want them to correct your behavior.

dont blame me. i vote for unions, for progressive politicians, for
workers' rights. the majority of US voters think that the american
dream is alive, and dont know the facts


There is no left or right, there are 2 childish groups that argue to get 1)
ratings and 2) the ignorant masses to elect/reelect them.

that's your problem. you hate the middle class

The middle class is shrinking and will be miniscule thanks to your voting
and purchasing habits.

with every conservative vote the middle class puts itself in a smaller
box

On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I blame the amazingly ignorant "American" assholes for how they vote and
spend their money. YOU are the economy, not some assholes in congress or
the White House, yet you want them to correct your behavior.

dont blame me. i vote for unions, for progressive politicians, for
workers' rights. the majority of US voters think that the american
dream is alive, and dont know the facts

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You should
exercise that right.

There is no American dream except in Japan, Korea and red China - they get
it, "Americans" do not. It's natural selection in reverse.

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
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On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I blame the amazingly ignorant "American" assholes for how they vote and
spend their money. YOU are the economy, not some assholes in congress
or
the White House, yet you want them to correct your behavior.

dont blame me. i vote for unions, for progressive politicians, for
workers' rights. the majority of US voters think that the american
dream is alive, and dont know the facts

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You should
exercise that right.

There is no American dream except in Japan, Korea and red China - they get
it, "Americans" do not. It's natural selection in reverse.

So, you're posting from one of those countries? No. So, you're a hypocrite.
Feel free to apply for citizenship to one of them.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 22:37:30 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I blame the amazingly ignorant "American" assholes for how they vote and
spend their money. YOU are the economy, not some assholes in congress or
the White House, yet you want them to correct your behavior.

dont blame me. i vote for unions, for progressive politicians, for
workers' rights. the majority of US voters think that the american
dream is alive, and dont know the facts

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You should
exercise that right.

let's see....what do australia and germany h ave in common?

-lower unemployment than we do
-higher union membership than we do

you were saying?


There is no American dream except in Japan, Korea and red China - they get
it, "Americans" do not. It's natural selection in reverse.

and yet the right keeps tellling the middle class to trust the rich to
do the right thing...dont join unions...dont negotiate for higher
wages...

and the middle class keeps taking it in the shorts...or in the kurtz,
if you will

On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You should
exercise that right.

let's see....what do australia and germany h ave in common?

-lower unemployment than we do
-higher union membership than we do

you were saying?

Germans buy German, or now European; they're not stupid. Germany isn't
inundated by 65% of the industrial market displaced by Japan, Korea and red
China.

Australians but local; they're not stupid. They still have a core domestic
industrial base.

"Americans" buy shoddy foreign junk, "think" their Toyota is "built" in
Kentucky, then bellyache about "the economy."

Ignorance IS bliss!

Industrial publications this past week showed that 45% of the machine tool
industry is closed (bankrupt and closed) in North America. Gee - where do
the Asian assembly companies get tooling? Duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.....
They're not stupid either. "Americans" are because they're lazy. It's a
perfect circle. Obama can't (and would have no idea how to) save you from
your lack of understanding.

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:13:50 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You should
exercise that right.

let's see....what do australia and germany h ave in common?

-lower unemployment than we do
-higher union membership than we do

you were saying?

Germans buy German, or now European

actually they export german.

; they're not stupid. Germany isn't
inundated by 65% of the industrial market displaced by Japan, Korea and red
China.

gee. let's see....america's elite class....the wall street harvard
MBA's...made their billions by exporting american jobs and getting
americans suckered into supporting this by accepting lower wages. we
have one of the greatest disparities between the middle class and rich
of any country in the industrialized world

we can't afford to buy anything because we dont get paid. kind of like
the old USSR. we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us


Industrial publications this past week showed that 45% of the machine tool
industry is closed (bankrupt and closed) in North America. Gee - where do
the Asian assembly companies get tooling? Duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.....
They're not stupid either. "Americans" are because they're lazy.

americans aren't lazy. we work more than any other people on
earth...about 200 hours more than germans, french and even japanese

but the right wing loves this bull**** story of a lazy middle
class....keeps us from killing the rich

It's a
perfect circle. Obama can't (and would have no idea how to) save you from
your lack of understanding.

says the guy who thinks america's hard working middle class is lazy

in spte of the fact we work harder than anyone else

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:13:50 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 3-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The 5th amendment permits you not to testify against yourself. You
should
exercise that right.

let's see....what do australia and germany h ave in common?

-lower unemployment than we do
-higher union membership than we do

you were saying?

Germans buy German, or now European

actually they export german.

; they're not stupid. Germany isn't
inundated by 65% of the industrial market displaced by Japan, Korea and
red
China.

gee. let's see....america's elite class....the wall street harvard
MBA's...made their billions by exporting american jobs and getting
americans suckered into supporting this by accepting lower wages. we
have one of the greatest disparities between the middle class and rich
of any country in the industrialized world

we can't afford to buy anything because we dont get paid. kind of like
the old USSR. we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us


Industrial publications this past week showed that 45% of the machine tool
industry is closed (bankrupt and closed) in North America. Gee - where do
the Asian assembly companies get tooling? Duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.....
They're not stupid either. "Americans" are because they're lazy.

americans aren't lazy. we work more than any other people on
earth...about 200 hours more than germans, french and even japanese

but the right wing loves this bull**** story of a lazy middle
class....keeps us from killing the rich

It's a
perfect circle. Obama can't (and would have no idea how to) save you from
your lack of understanding.

says the guy who thinks america's hard working middle class is lazy

in spte of the fact we work harder than anyone else

I don't agree with your ranking of who works the hardest. Most hours, could
be.

1. Taiwanese/Korean/Japanese
2. Americans
3. Mexican - last by a long shot in this group

In that order. I cannot speak for any other groups from first hand
experience.

I have considerable experience with these folks listed above working on
their home turf. Number of hours on the time card doesn't mean squat.

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:15:36 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:13:50 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


; they're not stupid. Germany isn't
inundated by 65% of the industrial market displaced by Japan, Korea and
red
China.

americans aren't lazy. we work more than any other people on
earth...about 200 hours more than germans, french and even japanese

but the right wing loves this bull**** story of a lazy middle
class....keeps us from killing the rich


says the guy who thinks america's hard working middle class is lazy

in spte of the fact we work harder than anyone else

I don't agree with your ranking of who works the hardest. Most hours, could
be.

1. Taiwanese/Korean/Japanese
2. Americans
3. Mexican - last by a long shot in this group

In that order. I cannot speak for any other groups from first hand
experience.

I have considerable experience with these folks listed above working on
their home turf. Number of hours on the time card doesn't mean squat.

excuse me for hyperbole. we're only 7th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time

so in spite of your hatred for the lazy american worker, we work damn
hard.

and if you notice, all the countries that work harder...except for
japan....

are poorer than we are.

so much for your disgust at the shiftless middle class and the hard
working rich

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:15:36 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:13:50 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


; they're not stupid. Germany isn't
inundated by 65% of the industrial market displaced by Japan, Korea and
red
China.

americans aren't lazy. we work more than any other people on
earth...about 200 hours more than germans, french and even japanese

but the right wing loves this bull**** story of a lazy middle
class....keeps us from killing the rich


says the guy who thinks america's hard working middle class is lazy

in spte of the fact we work harder than anyone else

I don't agree with your ranking of who works the hardest. Most hours,
could
be.

1. Taiwanese/Korean/Japanese
2. Americans
3. Mexican - last by a long shot in this group

In that order. I cannot speak for any other groups from first hand
experience.

I have considerable experience with these folks listed above working on
their home turf. Number of hours on the time card doesn't mean squat.

excuse me for hyperbole. we're only 7th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time

so in spite of your hatred for the lazy american worker, we work damn
hard.

and if you notice, all the countries that work harder...except for
japan....

are poorer than we are.

so much for your disgust at the shiftless middle class and the hard
working rich

See, you interpret information to fit your agenda and reach conclusions.

Where did I say the American workers were shiftless or lazy? "I" rank them
behind the Oriental group I have experience with. Oh, btw, I'm in the
American middle class you're campaigning for. Thanks for that.

Do you have experience working with the folks mentioned on their home turf?