On 5/14/13 8:20 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 5/14/13 7:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On May 14, 6:43 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 5/14/13 7:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 5/14/13 5:32 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:51:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

You can depend upon a bankster not giving a **** about the greed that
cost more than 1000 lives. No one said the factory shouldn't make a
profit, by the way.

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It's good to see you once again searching for the moral high ground.
Hopefully you'll find it some day but I'm not holding my breath.

Just as an FYI, I'd argue that incompetence was probably a bigger
culprit than greed in the case of the building collapse. When things
are designed and built correctly, they don't fall down.

What a wonderfully self-delusional way to look at corporate excess. The
guy who expanded the building illegally in Bangladesh was simply
incompetent and didn't know what he was doing would lead to disaster.
The companies who contract for the lowest price manufacturing facility
didn't know the companies they retained had their workers laboring for
**** wages in such a facility. It's never greed, because the free
market
system, why, it demands that structures and systems are designed,
built,
and operated correctly. Yup, so anything horrific that happens, why it
is never the fault of cost-cutting or greed.

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Wow. Harry, you really have become cynical to an excess over the
years. Starting to think GOM syndrome is setting in.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/02/28/1226587/474989-statle...


Greed is the driving force in the economy.

It's the driving force of any economy. ie to gain more



So, you are an acolyte of Gordon Gekko, and believe that unrestrained
greed is good? Mighty shaky ground for a devout and believing Christian,
eh?

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Tim's faith has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation Harry.




I'm not questioning his faith, but I do know that his saviour was not an
advocate of greed.

Perhaps we have a language problem here. I don't have the slightest
problem with a for-profit company making a profit. For me, the question
is, what is the percentage of profit and what is being done to maximize
that profit? If workers are being exploited and forced to work in
dangerous conditions, then the maximization of profit is based upon
greed. If the workers are paid a decent wage and can work in relative
safety, then greed may not be a factor.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...




Perhaps we have a language problem here. I don't have the slightest
problem with a for-profit company making a profit. For me, the
question
is, what is the percentage of profit and what is being done to
maximize
that profit? If workers are being exploited and forced to work in
dangerous conditions, then the maximization of profit is based upon
greed. If the workers are paid a decent wage and can work in relative
safety, then greed may not be a factor.

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Thank you. That's a far cry from your normal, all inclusive
definition of corporate greed.
I believe that the vast majority of businesses .... at least in the US
..... fit your re-defined description.

On 5/14/13 8:42 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...




Perhaps we have a language problem here. I don't have the slightest
problem with a for-profit company making a profit. For me, the question
is, what is the percentage of profit and what is being done to maximize
that profit? If workers are being exploited and forced to work in
dangerous conditions, then the maximization of profit is based upon
greed. If the workers are paid a decent wage and can work in relative
safety, then greed may not be a factor.

-----------------------------------------

Thank you. That's a far cry from your normal, all inclusive definition
of corporate greed.
I believe that the vast majority of businesses .... at least in the US
.... fit your re-defined description.



Well, I don't want to start another of Greg's endless threads, but...a
large number of American businesses that "do business" abroad engage in
greed. Recall that the pope's statement was related to the awful
incident in Bangladesh, and the factory that collapsed was a major
supplier of clothing to American corporations, and there is no doubt the
corporations were aware of what the conditions were in that factory.

There also is no shortage of American corporations whose businesses are
mainly based in the states who engage in shady, exploitative labor
practices. In fact, such is the connecting element these days, it seems.

On 5/14/13 10:02 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 08:59:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Well, I don't want to start another of Greg's endless threads

Yet most start with one of your posts ;-)


Well, someone here has to think.

I'll be the first to admit I have no great interest in endless
discussions here. There aren't enough participants to make it that
interesting to me. These usually end up with you splitting hairs with
iloogy.

On May 14, 9:10*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I'll be the first to admit I have no great interest in endless
discussions here. There aren't enough participants to make it that
interesting to me. These usually end up with you splitting hairs with
iloogy.

HuH? So far, 17 of the 42 posts in this thread are yours Harry...

?;^ )

On 5/14/2013 6:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 14, 9:10 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I'll be the first to admit I have no great interest in endless
discussions here. There aren't enough participants to make it that
interesting to me. These usually end up with you splitting hairs with
iloogy.

HuH? So far, 17 of the 42 posts in this thread are yours Harry...

?;^ )


LOL!

F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/14/13 8:20 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/14/13 7:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On May 14, 6:43 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 5/14/13 7:19 AM, Eisboch wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/14/13 5:32 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:51:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

You can depend upon a bankster not giving a **** about the greed
that
cost more than 1000 lives. No one said the factory shouldn't make a
profit, by the way.

===

It's good to see you once again searching for the moral high ground.
Hopefully you'll find it some day but I'm not holding my breath.

Just as an FYI, I'd argue that incompetence was probably a bigger
culprit than greed in the case of the building collapse. When
things
are designed and built correctly, they don't fall down.

What a wonderfully self-delusional way to look at corporate
excess. The
guy who expanded the building illegally in Bangladesh was simply
incompetent and didn't know what he was doing would lead to disaster.
The companies who contract for the lowest price manufacturing
facility
didn't know the companies they retained had their workers laboring
for
**** wages in such a facility. It's never greed, because the free
market
system, why, it demands that structures and systems are designed,
built,
and operated correctly. Yup, so anything horrific that happens,
why it
is never the fault of cost-cutting or greed.

---------------------------------------

Wow. Harry, you really have become cynical to an excess over the
years. Starting to think GOM syndrome is setting in.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/02/28/1226587/474989-statle...



Greed is the driving force in the economy.

It's the driving force of any economy. ie to gain more



So, you are an acolyte of Gordon Gekko, and believe that unrestrained
greed is good? Mighty shaky ground for a devout and believing Christian,
eh?

------------------------------------------------

Tim's faith has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation Harry.




I'm not questioning his faith, but I do know that his saviour was not
an advocate of greed.

Perhaps we have a language problem here. I don't have the slightest
problem with a for-profit company making a profit. For me, the
question is, what is the percentage of profit and what is being done
to maximize that profit? If workers are being exploited and forced to
work in dangerous conditions, then the maximization of profit is based
upon greed. If the workers are paid a decent wage and can work in
relative safety, then greed may not be a factor.


It all has to do with competition. How do you know this company was
doing any more than breaking even? You are full of assumptions, deadbeat.