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*e#c April 27th 13 04:48 AM

Ethanol?
 
On Apr 26, 10:23*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" *wrote in message

...

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

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Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. * The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. *The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. * Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. *The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

-----------------------------------------------------

I'd *add that AVGAS *(gasoline produced for use in aircraft ..
typically private planes) * does *not* contain ethanol by law.
There's a reason for it.


Ooooooooooooooooooh.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

**** YOU HERPES BOY

Earl[_84_] April 27th 13 06:23 AM

Ethanol?
 
Eisboch wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

-----------------------------------------------------

I'd add that AVGAS (gasoline produced for use in aircraft ..
typically private planes) does *not* contain ethanol by law.
There's a reason for it.






It does contain a lot of lead.

Hank©[_2_] April 27th 13 01:07 PM

Ethanol?
 
On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Apr 26, 10:23 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

-----------------------------------------------------

I'd add that AVGAS (gasoline produced for use in aircraft ..
typically private planes) does *not* contain ethanol by law.
There's a reason for it.


Ooooooooooooooooooh.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

**** YOU HERPES BOY

How old are you, seven?

Eisboch[_8_] April 27th 13 02:28 PM

Ethanol?
 


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, *e#c wrote:

Ooooooooooooooooooh.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

**** YOU HERPES BOY



How old are you, seven?

----------------------------------------------------

His rants seem to appear between regular detox treatments.


F.O.A.D. April 27th 13 03:06 PM

Ethanol?
 
On 4/27/13 9:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, *e#c wrote:

Ooooooooooooooooooh.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

**** YOU HERPES BOY



How old are you, seven?

----------------------------------------------------

His rants seem to appear between regular detox treatments.



Uh, which Scott are you discussing here? :)

iBoaterer[_3_] April 27th 13 03:52 PM

Ethanol?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.


Didn't Al Gore finally admit that turning our food source into fuel was a bad idea?


Republican: Igor no like new technology. Igor scared.

BAR[_2_] April 27th 13 04:22 PM

Ethanol?
 
In article , says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.


Didn't Al Gore finally admit that turning our food source into fuel was a bad idea?


Republican: Igor no like new technology. Igor scared.


What new technology is there in fermenting grain? It has been going on for thousands of
years.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 27th 13 04:35 PM

Ethanol?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

Didn't Al Gore finally admit that turning our food source into fuel was a bad idea?


Republican: Igor no like new technology. Igor scared.


What new technology is there in fermenting grain? It has been going on for thousands of
years.


I rest my case....

BAR[_2_] April 27th 13 05:17 PM

Ethanol?
 
In article , says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

Didn't Al Gore finally admit that turning our food source into fuel was a bad idea?

Republican: Igor no like new technology. Igor scared.


What new technology is there in fermenting grain? It has been going on for thousands of
years.


I rest my case....


What technological improvements have there been in distilling spirits over the past several
millennium.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 27th 13 06:16 PM

Ethanol?
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Maybe if the right wouldn't be SO afraid of new technology, we could
move forward and make engines that would be just fine on ethanol.

-------------------------------------------------------

That's not the problem. The problem is that ethanol was forced upon
the industry and public even when testing indicated that many existing
fuel delivery systems would be adversely affected by it. The last
boat I bought had one year old, USCG approved fuel lines that were
perfectly fine but the survey revealed that they should be replaced
with a newer, ethanol resistant type. Not an easy or inexpensive
task on a twin engine boat with fuel tanks located in an almost
inaccessible location.

At least one major boat manufacturer had to recall all their boats
when it was found that ethanol laced fuel was dissolving the resin
used to make fiberglass fuel tanks that were an integral part of the
boat's molded design. The resin was carried into the engine's fuel
delivery system, totally screwing up the fuel injectors.

More newer car engines require high octane premium fuel in order to
get full performance without having the engine sensors retard timing,
thanks to ethanol.

It was a bad idea then and now the government wants to make it even
worse.

Didn't Al Gore finally admit that turning our food source into fuel was a bad idea?

Republican: Igor no like new technology. Igor scared.

What new technology is there in fermenting grain? It has been going on for thousands of
years.


I rest my case....


What technological improvements have there been in distilling spirits over the past several
millennium.


Oh, none I suppose, if you are a moron. They still do it with a wood
fire out in the woods, kind of like your blind foolish assumption that
the internal combustion engine hasn't changed since it's invention.


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