In article ,
says...

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:25:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:14:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 10:40 AM, wrote:


" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed."


You seem to have left off some significant words there, fella.

You don't mind leaving out "Congress shall make no law" when your
local church wants to put a nativity scene in the park.


Local churches can put up whatever they wish on church grounds or other
private property. Government is not allowed to show preference for one
religion over another. Erecting a nativity scene on public property
violates the establishment clause. Unfortunately, the right-wing Supreme
court has allowed some slippage in the recent decade.

You are still left out some significant words

How do you reconcile that with "Congress shall make no law"?

This is not a law, it is only a public entity, a church or religious
group, using public property.
If you called it a demonstration they would be allowed to say or do
just about anything they wanted to do.
We had "occupy" demonstrators setting up all sorts of displays in our
city park and they stayed there for weeks. Was the government
"establishing" a war on corporations?
There were more people offended by that here than any nativity scene
would ever be.

Actually it's "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably
to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of
grievances."

On 4/23/13 1:09 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:25:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:14:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 10:40 AM, wrote:


" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed."


You seem to have left off some significant words there, fella.

You don't mind leaving out "Congress shall make no law" when your
local church wants to put a nativity scene in the park.


Local churches can put up whatever they wish on church grounds or other
private property. Government is not allowed to show preference for one
religion over another. Erecting a nativity scene on public property
violates the establishment clause. Unfortunately, the right-wing Supreme
court has allowed some slippage in the recent decade.

You are still left out some significant words

How do you reconcile that with "Congress shall make no law"?

This is not a law, it is only a public entity, a church or religious
group, using public property.
If you called it a demonstration they would be allowed to say or do
just about anything they wanted to do.
We had "occupy" demonstrators setting up all sorts of displays in our
city park and they stayed there for weeks. Was the government
"establishing" a war on corporations?
There were more people offended by that here than any nativity scene
would ever be.

Actually it's "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably
to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of
grievances."


Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling
places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities,
such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings,
et cetera.

On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling
places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities,
such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings,
et cetera.

The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are
not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the
students are there and the general public is not allowed in.
Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and
office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls.
Some have security that prevents access for the general public.

They have tried to get away from church property here but the county
simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the
polling places required.
They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself
if that makes you feel better.
The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all
and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the
church itself.


Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room
is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the
1970's, we voted at the firehouse.

When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist
church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with
photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I filed a complaint
with the board of elections. It took two years and a lot of letters and
threats, but the board of elections finally moved the polling place to a
"neutral" location. I am sure I was "damned" from the pulpit.

This was the same baptist church whose minister claimed catholics were
not christians, and who sent out teams of proselytizers every week.

On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling
places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities,
such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings,
et cetera.

The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are
not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the
students are there and the general public is not allowed in.
Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and
office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls.
Some have security that prevents access for the general public.

They have tried to get away from church property here but the county
simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the
polling places required.
They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself
if that makes you feel better.
The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all
and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the
church itself.


Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room
is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the
1970's, we voted at the firehouse.

Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we
don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland


When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist
church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with
photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day.

I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too.


Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that
lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and
everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the
entertainment...

On 4/23/13 8:10 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling
places. The public's elections should be conducted in public
facilities,
such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office
buildings,
et cetera.

The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are
not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the
students are there and the general public is not allowed in.
Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and
office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls.
Some have security that prevents access for the general public.

They have tried to get away from church property here but the county
simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the
polling places required.
They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself
if that makes you feel better.
The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all
and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the
church itself.


Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room
is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the
1970's, we voted at the firehouse.

Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we
don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland


When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist
church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with
photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day.

I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too.


Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that
lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and
everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the
entertainment...


You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and
no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a
series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a
polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine.

On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and
no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a
series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a
polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine.

You are way too full of yourself, asshat.

On 4/23/2013 9:56 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and
no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a
series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a
polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine.

You are way too full of yourself, asshat.

Why is it harry that's always talking about bombs and shooting folks?
Why Harry Krause are you so intent on killing somebody?

In article ,
says...

On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling
places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities,
such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings,
et cetera.

The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are
not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the
students are there and the general public is not allowed in.
Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and
office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls.
Some have security that prevents access for the general public.

They have tried to get away from church property here but the county
simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the
polling places required.
They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself
if that makes you feel better.
The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all
and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the
church itself.


Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room
is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the
1970's, we voted at the firehouse.

Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we
don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland


When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist
church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with
photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day.

I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too.


Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that
lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and
everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the
entertainment...

You sure seems to be VERY interested in youngsters.......

On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote:


As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in
our community and we should accept them all.
That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on
halloween tho. Fair is fair.


That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock
us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free
speech, that only seems to go in one direction...

On 4/23/13 6:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote:


As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in
our community and we should accept them all.
That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on
halloween tho. Fair is fair.


That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock
us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free
speech, that only seems to go in one direction...


Dum**** Snotty has bought into Faux News' imaginary "war on christmas."