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Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/2013 6:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/23/13 6:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free speech, that only seems to go in one direction... Dum**** Snotty has bought into Faux News' imaginary "war on christmas." Pedophile harry krause is talking to blind and those who would rather stay ignorantly uninformed by choice.. LOL! |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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In article , says... On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:55:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: If you want to make the constitution the law of the land, so be it. === The constitution *is* the law of the land and the people who wrote it were a lot smarter than some of today's wannabe interpreters. I wholeheartedly agree! Therefore, you can't cherry pick which passages you want upheld because you want them upheld, and deny the ones you want to deny. Which ones are those who are not of your vien of thought not wanting to ensure? |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. And the Constitution. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/2013 7:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. And the Constitution. No it doesn't... only to you haters.. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities, such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings, et cetera. The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the students are there and the general public is not allowed in. Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls. Some have security that prevents access for the general public. They have tried to get away from church property here but the county simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the polling places required. They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself if that makes you feel better. The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the church itself. Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the 1970's, we voted at the firehouse. Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too. Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the entertainment... |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/13 7:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. The answers you seek are in and around the Establishment clause, taking into account the right-wing supremes have weakened it a bit. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/13 8:10 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities, such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings, et cetera. The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the students are there and the general public is not allowed in. Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls. Some have security that prevents access for the general public. They have tried to get away from church property here but the county simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the polling places required. They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself if that makes you feel better. The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the church itself. Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the 1970's, we voted at the firehouse. Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too. Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the entertainment... You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. |
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