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On 4/23/2013 6:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/23/13 6:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free speech, that only seems to go in one direction... Dum**** Snotty has bought into Faux News' imaginary "war on christmas." Pedophile harry krause is talking to blind and those who would rather stay ignorantly uninformed by choice.. LOL! |
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In article , says... On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:55:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: If you want to make the constitution the law of the land, so be it. === The constitution *is* the law of the land and the people who wrote it were a lot smarter than some of today's wannabe interpreters. I wholeheartedly agree! Therefore, you can't cherry pick which passages you want upheld because you want them upheld, and deny the ones you want to deny. Which ones are those who are not of your vien of thought not wanting to ensure? |
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. And the Constitution. |
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On 4/23/2013 7:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. And the Constitution. No it doesn't... only to you haters.. |
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On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities, such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings, et cetera. The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the students are there and the general public is not allowed in. Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls. Some have security that prevents access for the general public. They have tried to get away from church property here but the county simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the polling places required. They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself if that makes you feel better. The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the church itself. Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the 1970's, we voted at the firehouse. Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too. Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the entertainment... |
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On 4/23/13 7:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. The answers you seek are in and around the Establishment clause, taking into account the right-wing supremes have weakened it a bit. |
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On 4/23/13 8:10 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities, such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings, et cetera. The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the students are there and the general public is not allowed in. Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls. Some have security that prevents access for the general public. They have tried to get away from church property here but the county simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the polling places required. They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself if that makes you feel better. The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the church itself. Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the 1970's, we voted at the firehouse. Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too. Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the entertainment... You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. |
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On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. |
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On 4/23/2013 9:56 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. Why is it harry that's always talking about bombs and shooting folks? Why Harry Krause are you so intent on killing somebody? |
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On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... |
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On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. |
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On 4/24/13 8:18 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/23/2013 9:56 PM, Hank© wrote: On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. Why is it harry that's always talking about bombs and shooting folks? Why Harry Krause are you so intent on killing somebody? The subject was you and your way, you ignorant ass. |
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On 4/24/2013 8:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/24/13 8:18 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 9:56 PM, Hank© wrote: On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. Why is it harry that's always talking about bombs and shooting folks? Why Harry Krause are you so intent on killing somebody? The subject was you and your way, you ignorant ass. You can make any subject up you want, but you do sit here almost every day and suggest someone shoot themselves harry krause, or blow somebody up etc... You seem intent on inciting violence, just like the cops that came to my house that time were made well aware of... |
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On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... |
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JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. |
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On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... |
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says... On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free speech, that only seems to go in one direction... Really? http://tinyurl.com/ao94hkr http://tinyurl.com/bcf2ty9 http://tinyurl.com/axkrq9j |
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:20:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. ==== I think you're forgetting that the purpose of this exercise is to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. One of the big issues is that the parents in "other" religions resent having their children surrounded by christian religious symbols. I think that's understandable. |
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On 4/24/13 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... I am sure I am a progressive. I am sure you are not a Jew. |
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says... On 4/23/2013 6:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/23/13 6:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 5:29 PM, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. That's fine... and we won't mock them on Halloween, and they don't mock us on Christmas. It's not the Christians trying to stop others free speech, that only seems to go in one direction... Dum**** Snotty has bought into Faux News' imaginary "war on christmas." Pedophile harry krause is talking to blind and those who would rather stay ignorantly uninformed by choice.. LOL! And Scotty's lies start again, day 2 of the Scotty circle of insanity! |
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says... On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... That's insane on SO many levels. |
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says... On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... Scotty calling someone else "bigoted"!!! Slings around the "N" word, hates Muslims, hates "progressives" and everything and everybody that doesn't toe the FOX line..... |
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On 4/24/2013 8:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/24/13 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... I am sure I am a progressive. I am sure you are not a Jew. Idiot... |
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says... On 4/23/2013 7:29 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:53:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:16:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Indeed, I don't even like the use of churches for election polling places. The public's elections should be conducted in public facilities, such as schools, firehouses, county, state or federal office buildings, et cetera. The problem is there are a lot of places where those facilities are not available on election days. Our schools are locked down when the students are there and the general public is not allowed in. Fire Houses are generally not rated for "assembly" (the fire code) and office building may not have an accessible area to set up the polls. Some have security that prevents access for the general public. They have tried to get away from church property here but the county simply does not have enough suitable locations to serve all of the polling places required. They do choose meeting rooms that are separate from the church itself if that makes you feel better. The one they used in Estero had no religious artifacts in it at all and the entrance was on a different road than the entrance of the church itself. Our schools here shut down on election day and the large assembly room is set up with the voting machines. When I lived in Virginia in the 1970's, we voted at the firehouse. Our firehouses are not set up as "places of public assembly" but we don't have casino nights like they do up there in Maryland When I first voted in NE Florida, the polling place was at a baptist church. The church lined the hallway leading to the assembly room with photos of aborted fetuses, just for election day. I have never seen anything like that here. I would complain too. Hhe didn't complain, because he just made it up... Harry is like that lonely teen, telling whoppers late at night around the fire and everybody there knows he is just making it up, but settle for the entertainment... You sure seems to be VERY interested in youngsters....... |
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Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/2013 8:56 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:20:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. ==== I think you're forgetting that the purpose of this exercise is to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. One of the big issues is that the parents in "other" religions resent having their children surrounded by christian religious symbols. I think that's understandable. And I think it's bull****... We had Christian and Jewish symbols all of my life in school... Even Kwanza after they invented it. And no kid is "offended" by a shiny tree or the Menorah, honest adults aren't either... unless they are already bigoted and predetermined to hate... |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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says... On 4/23/2013 7:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:44:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/23/13 5:09 PM, wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:51:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: If you can extend "Congress" (meaning the US congress) shall make no federal law" to mean a city council can't allow a display on city property, I can't understand why "shall not be infringed" is not an absolute prohibition of any firearm law by any government entity. Infringe means destroy, shatter, crush. The current set of firearm regulations do not destroy, shatter or crush the ability to own firearms. in·fringe (n-frnj) v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es v.tr. 1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent. 2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate. v.intr. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life. In this context, the obsolete definition is most likely what the framers were talking about. Demonstrations are not the same as displays. Why not? Because the people have a Bill of Rights right to peaceably assemble. There is no Bill of Rights right to set up a religious display on public property; in fact, the state is not allowed to help promote religion, and a creche promotes religion. Isn't stopping it "prohibiting the free exercise of"? The government is no more establishing religion with this display than they are establishing nazism when they let the marchers walk in Skokie Every year, for example, we get thousands of religious simpies up here protesting Roe v. Wade, and they camp out on the steps of the Supreme Court and march down the public's streets and sidewalks. So long as they have a permit, such behavior is allowed. Isn't the government that grants that permit "establishing" that religious belief? No, they are granting a parade permit. So why not a nativity display permit? Demonstrating against corporate excess is not the same as promoting the religious crib scenes of a Jewish baby. Why not? Both represent deeply held personal beliefs. Because the religious crib scenes on public property promote religion, and such is not allowed. Says you. And the Constitution. No it doesn't... only to you haters.. Yes it does, moron. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/13 8:56 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:20:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. ==== I think you're forgetting that the purpose of this exercise is to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. One of the big issues is that the parents in "other" religions resent having their children surrounded by christian religious symbols. I think that's understandable. During grammar and junior high when I was growing up in New Haven, we had "holiday assemblies" at public school. They were "ecumenical." There were no such assemblies at my public high school. I don't recall if there were any holiday decorations on the public's "green" in the center of downtown or anywhere else. The majority populations at that time were Roman Catholic and Jewish, and there were plenty of "ecumenical" social events. During grammar and junior high, the local Catholic church, which was a few blocks from where we lived, had lots of afterschool activities under the watchful eye of nuns, and every kid, no matter his/her background, was welcomed. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/13 9:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 8:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... I am sure I am a progressive. I am sure you are not a Jew. Idiot... Really? Virtually all the Jews I know live their lives in ways that ensures their children succeed in school and are highly educated. If you were Jewish, you would be the odd Jew out. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/13 9:05 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 8:56 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:20:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. ==== I think you're forgetting that the purpose of this exercise is to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. One of the big issues is that the parents in "other" religions resent having their children surrounded by christian religious symbols. I think that's understandable. And I think it's bull****... We had Christian and Jewish symbols all of my life in school... Even Kwanza after they invented it. And no kid is "offended" by a shiny tree or the Menorah, honest adults aren't either... unless they are already bigoted and predetermined to hate... I think holiday religious symbols can be very attractive when they are on religious or private property. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/13 8:35 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 8:24 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:18 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 9:56 PM, Hank© wrote: On 4/23/2013 9:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: You're projecting again. You've had a life of no serious education and no serious jobs, and therefore you cannot fathom someone who can write a series of effective letters that push a change in the location of a polling place. Your way would be to make a homemade claymore mine. You are way too full of yourself, asshat. Why is it harry that's always talking about bombs and shooting folks? Why Harry Krause are you so intent on killing somebody? The subject was you and your way, you ignorant ass. You can make any subject up you want, but you do sit here almost every day and suggest someone shoot themselves harry krause, or blow somebody up etc... You seem intent on inciting violence, just like the cops that came to my house that time were made well aware of... Bull****. |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/2013 9:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/24/13 9:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... I am sure I am a progressive. I am sure you are not a Jew. Idiot... Really? Virtually all the Jews I know live their lives in ways that ensures their children succeed in school and are highly educated. If you were Jewish, you would be the odd Jew out. What a bigoted asshole... But it's ok, the willfully ignorant here will still support you... |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/2013 9:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/24/13 8:56 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:20:47 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. ==== I think you're forgetting that the purpose of this exercise is to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. One of the big issues is that the parents in "other" religions resent having their children surrounded by christian religious symbols. I think that's understandable. During grammar and junior high Cool story bro! |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
On 4/24/13 9:31 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/24/2013 9:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 9:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... I am sure I am a progressive. I am sure you are not a Jew. Idiot... Really? Virtually all the Jews I know live their lives in ways that ensures their children succeed in school and are highly educated. If you were Jewish, you would be the odd Jew out. What a bigoted asshole... But it's ok, the willfully ignorant here will still support you... It's bigoted to point out that most Jews in America highly value education for their children? Gosh, what an awful cultural attribute, eh? |
Teamsters protect Boston bombing victim's funeral.
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says... On 4/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/24/2013 8:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/24/13 8:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/23/2013 10:02 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:06 -0400, wrote: As far as I am concerned, holiday displays celebrate the diversity in our community and we should accept them all. That might mean the christians have to tolerate a wiccan display on halloween tho. Fair is fair. ==== To understand what the fuss is about I think you have to put yourself in the minority view for a minute. For example, what if you lived in a town that had an Islamic majority, and everywhere you went there were Islamic religious symbols on display. After a while you would probably come around to the view that Islam was the "official" religion and that everything else, Well, not if you were in America and ever went to school.. including your own beliefs, was merely tolerated if at all. Much of this debate started in the NYC suburbs that have a very significant Jewish population. They rightfully took offense at being surrounded by Christian religious symbols, especially those on government property. They really didn't "take offense" to the baby Jesus, it's only fringe groups and liars that say they are "offended" by a couple of crossed pieces of wood... Ahh, now the uneducated, ignorant PsychoSnotty speaks for Jews. Ah, the hateful bigoted Hitler wanna' be speaks for the progressives... I am a progressive. You are not a Jew. Are you sure about that? What a bigot. Lucky you are a progressive, the willfully ignorant here will back you up... Being progressive is ignorant?? Really? How so? |
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