Ogden Johnson III wrote:

"Njord" wrote:



Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?



Hand grenade pins and belaying pins have nothing in common.

Nor do police badges. In PD jargon (at least in the NYPD), 'to pull the
pin' means to retire. In olden days, the badge was secured to the
uniform with a large separate safety pin. Later badges had a pin as an
integral part of the badge. Pulling the pin meant that the badge was
removed forever.

Bill Schnakenberg wrote:
Ogden Johnson III wrote:

"Njord" wrote:



Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to
do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?



Hand grenade pins and belaying pins have nothing in common.

Nor do police badges. In PD jargon (at least in the NYPD), 'to pull the
pin' means to retire. In olden days, the badge was secured to the
uniform with a large separate safety pin. Later badges had a pin as an
integral part of the badge. Pulling the pin meant that the badge was
removed forever.


I never heard any NYPD person refer to it as anything other than a "shield"

vince

Vince Brannigan wrote:



Bill Schnakenberg wrote:

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

"Njord" wrote:



Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to
do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?




Hand grenade pins and belaying pins have nothing in common.

Nor do police badges. In PD jargon (at least in the NYPD), 'to pull
the pin' means to retire. In olden days, the badge was secured to the
uniform with a large separate safety pin. Later badges had a pin as
an integral part of the badge. Pulling the pin meant that the badge
was removed forever.


I never heard any NYPD person refer to it as anything other than a
"shield"

I was not a NYPD cop. I call it a badge. Whether the NYPD calls it a
'shield', or the slang word 'tin', does it change the meaning of my
message?
I invite you to go to this official NYPD page. Read the very last paragraph.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/ch...d-history.html

Dale Farmer wrote:

Njord wrote:

Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?

"Once you pull the pin, Mister Hand Grenade is no longer your friend. "

-- The sergeant who had the thankless task of instructing me, and a whole
bunch
of other Hospital Corpsmen, on throwing hand grenades to cause injury to the
other side.

--Dale

Have you ever had a human being look so intensely at you as
your hand grenade instructor? I had the feeling that one
flinch and he was out of there, with me as his ladder/blast
shield.

Joe


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Vince Brannigan wrote in message ...
Bill Schnakenberg wrote:
Ogden Johnson III wrote:

"Njord" wrote:



Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to
do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?



Hand grenade pins and belaying pins have nothing in common.

Nor do police badges. In PD jargon (at least in the NYPD), 'to pull the
pin' means to retire. In olden days, the badge was secured to the
uniform with a large separate safety pin. Later badges had a pin as an
integral part of the badge. Pulling the pin meant that the badge was
removed forever.


I never heard any NYPD person refer to it as anything other than a "shield"

But, that's only because NYPD can't really be compared to
any other police force in the nation. Since NYPD
is a quasi-military force not a police force.

Or as probably the true statement that was ever said about
New York City goes:

Don't worry about looking for the Lost and Found Department
in New York since you're lost in Hell.




vince

Joe Osman wrote:

Dale Farmer wrote:

Njord wrote:

Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?

"Once you pull the pin, Mister Hand Grenade is no longer your friend. "

-- The sergeant who had the thankless task of instructing me, and a whole
bunch
of other Hospital Corpsmen, on throwing hand grenades to cause injury to the
other side.

--Dale

Have you ever had a human being look so intensely at you as
your hand grenade instructor? I had the feeling that one
flinch and he was out of there, with me as his ladder/blast
shield.

I don't know. The only thing I was looking at was the grenade and the ground
I was walking over.

--Dale

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:48:08 GMT, Dale Farmer
wrote:



Njord wrote:

Hmm, replying to my own post. But wondering if this has anything to do with
the expression 'to pull the pin'?

"Once you pull the pin, Mister Hand Grenade is no longer your friend. "

-- The sergeant who had the thankless task of instructing me, and a whole
bunch
of other Hospital Corpsmen, on throwing hand grenades to cause injury to the
other side.

--Dale



From an old, shot-up Marine; Thanks.
Mark E. Williams

It's a belaying pin.

Used to fasten rope, etc.., and yes, also as a happenstance club if need be.
Nothing more elegant than swinging a chair in a bar fight really. but it
gets the job done.

Mine was from Alabama. The commands we "Chunk 'nade . .. .CHUNK!"
Damn that was a lot of years ago . . ..

The belaying pin-system was an early type of quick-release cleating system.
The pins fit into holes in the fife-rail that are called "bung-holes"!




"Christopher Horner" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:30:00 -0500, Mike1
wrote:


In old "pirate" movies, you'll sometimes see, during a fight, a man pull
out a special-shaped wooden pin or club and use it as a weapon.
Sometimes he has one or more on him, but often he yanks it from a
mounting bracket on the rail of the ship (where there appear to be many
of things, for, I presume, tying down lines to tack the sails).

Question: Do these pins have a specific name?


If the first pic on this ( http://www.tallshipbounty.org/belay.html ) page
is what you are talking about then, you're thinking of belaying pins, used
either for lashing/belaying running rigging, or motivating the crew.



--
Christopher Horner