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JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 10:43 AM

Here you go Dick...
 
.... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/

Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 12:04 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/


Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






Eisboch[_8_] March 29th 13 12:16 PM

Here you go Dick...
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/


Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo
in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,
it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.





F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 12:22 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.





It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high
school in Connecticut.

Eisboch[_8_] March 29th 13 12:27 PM

Here you go Dick...
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/


Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check.
They had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.



F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 12:38 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.




My friend with the 19th Century Mauser was complaining that he was
having a hard time finding 6.55 x 55 "Swedish" for his rifle. All of us
down here are *not* convinced it is because DHS has snarfed up all these
rounds for its 110-year-old rifles. :)

He did find a few boxes, but at two and a half times the price he
usually pays. I think he has a couple of boxes, and I'll keep an eye out
for what he wants if I happen to be in one of the local hunting/fishing
shops. He uses the Mauser for deer hunting. I like to shoot it at our
informal range, because it is a really nice bolt action rifle, and I
rarely have the opportunity to a rifle with a caliber larger than my
..22LR Thompson. But we do need some more ammo to play with the Mauser.




Eisboch[_8_] March 29th 13 12:41 PM

Here you go Dick...
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,
it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a
high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but
some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same
talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are
a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,
likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of
people who think the government is plotting to take away their right
to own a gun.






iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 12:45 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/

Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.


You stupid fool!!!!! They buy ammo all of the time anyway!!!!!! But what
about the armored vehicles, etc. you claim they are hoarding?

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 12:56 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some
people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and
some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few
obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes
and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people
who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun.






Many Americans, I believe, are just too lazy and too disinterested to
follow current events carefully. They "hear" or "see" there's an ammo
shortage, they see crazies on TV blaming the government, and they
believe it.

Hank©[_2_] March 29th 13 01:01 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?

True North[_2_] March 29th 13 01:11 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message

...



On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:





"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and


Racheal


Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American


voter....




http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/








Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg


usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't


like


the way I present it.






You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you


post


it and then claim "facts" not in play?




From your article:




Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up




Published March 23, 2013




| FoxNews.com






Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun


owners


and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid


sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.




Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently


drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more


boxes of ammo.




If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,


it


will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers


who


get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency


wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on


the


government's teat for five years.






----------------------------------




Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the


headlines only, not the article.






It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a

high

school in Connecticut.



=======================



What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated

people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share

Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but

some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same

talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are

a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the

conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,

likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of

people who think the government is plotting to take away their right

to own a gun.


We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls.
People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms.
I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope.
Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year.
Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course.

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 01:14 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 9:11 AM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message

...



On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:





"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and


Racheal


Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American


voter....




http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/








Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg


usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't


like


the way I present it.






You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you


post


it and then claim "facts" not in play?




From your article:




Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up




Published March 23, 2013




| FoxNews.com






Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun


owners


and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid


sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.




Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently


drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more


boxes of ammo.




If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,


it


will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers


who


get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency


wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on


the


government's teat for five years.






----------------------------------




Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the


headlines only, not the article.






It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a

high

school in Connecticut.



=======================



What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated

people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share

Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but

some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same

talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are

a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the

conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,

likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of

people who think the government is plotting to take away their right

to own a gun.


We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls.
People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms.
I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope.
Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year.
Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course.


Canadians and Canadian gun laws are far more rational than Americans and
American gun laws.

Hank©[_2_] March 29th 13 01:21 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 9:11 AM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message

...



On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:





"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and


Racheal


Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American


voter....




http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/








Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg


usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't


like


the way I present it.






You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you


post


it and then claim "facts" not in play?




From your article:




Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up




Published March 23, 2013




| FoxNews.com






Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun


owners


and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid


sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.




Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently


drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more


boxes of ammo.




If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,


it


will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers


who


get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency


wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on


the


government's teat for five years.






----------------------------------




Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the


headlines only, not the article.






It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a

high

school in Connecticut.



=======================



What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated

people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share

Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but

some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same

talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are

a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the

conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,

likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of

people who think the government is plotting to take away their right

to own a gun.


We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls.
People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms.
I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope.
Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year.
Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course.


Why do you insist on owning girly stuff?

Eisboch[_8_] March 29th 13 01:23 PM

Here you go Dick...
 


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the
next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the
Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series
of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by
mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo
in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,
it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many
cases
are you storing?

--------------------------------------------

You didn't direct your question to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents
worth:

Yes, I think it's stupid for private citizens to stockpile more ammo
than they reasonably need for home defense or as a hobby shooting at a
range.
Why? Because it's based on hysteria and only serves to create
shortages and drive the price of ammo up.

That said though, I also would not favor new laws restricting the
amount of ammo a private citizen can buy. If the preppers and
fanatics want to blow their money on ammo, it's their right.
Eventually, it will pass.

Realistically, the chances of needing a gun for personal/home defense
is very small and statistics prove that without a doubt. But,
there's always the possibility and I believe having a gun and knowing
how to use it to protect yourself or your family is prudent and
responsible. I also respect the opinion of those who don't want the
responsibility or just don't like guns. I never wanted one around
when we had kids in the house. But, now that I am older and the kids
are on their own, I felt it was an appropriate time to get a permit
and gun. Since then, I've discovered that I enjoy going to the range
with some friends once a week or so and becoming more proficient with
shooting.

The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a
range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those
activities or hobbies.

This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the
ultra-right media dies down.




F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 01:38 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 9:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?

--------------------------------------------

You didn't direct your question to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth:

Yes, I think it's stupid for private citizens to stockpile more ammo
than they reasonably need for home defense or as a hobby shooting at a
range.
Why? Because it's based on hysteria and only serves to create
shortages and drive the price of ammo up.

That said though, I also would not favor new laws restricting the
amount of ammo a private citizen can buy. If the preppers and fanatics
want to blow their money on ammo, it's their right. Eventually, it will
pass.

Realistically, the chances of needing a gun for personal/home defense is
very small and statistics prove that without a doubt. But, there's
always the possibility and I believe having a gun and knowing how to use
it to protect yourself or your family is prudent and responsible. I
also respect the opinion of those who don't want the responsibility or
just don't like guns. I never wanted one around when we had kids in
the house. But, now that I am older and the kids are on their own, I
felt it was an appropriate time to get a permit and gun. Since then,
I've discovered that I enjoy going to the range with some friends once
a week or so and becoming more proficient with shooting.

The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a
range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those
activities or hobbies.

This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the
ultra-right media dies down.




I have enough ammo on hand for a few trips to a nearby outdoor range as
soon as the weather warms up. I don't like shooting outdoors in the
cold, and lately I've only been going to the indoor range about twice a
month. I much prefer outdoor ranges.

Typically, at the range, I'll shoot two boxes or 100 rounds of ball ammo
9mm, two boxes or 200 rounds of .22LR in my pistol, and two boxes or 200
rounds of .22LR in my rifle. I use inexpensive but clean ammo for
practicing at the range. I like Sellier and Bellot and CCI. I keep a 9mm
mag full of hollow point at home for defensive purposes, plus my 12 gauge.






iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 01:58 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,
it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a
high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but
some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same
talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are
a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,
likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of
people who think the government is plotting to take away their right
to own a gun.





Yes, look no further than here in rec.boats. There is one in particular
who never talked about guns before and now it's about his only
conversation here other than far right wing crapola.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 01:59 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/


Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check.
They had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.


Eh, you're a smart man, you already knew that was insane bullcrap!


JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:22 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.





Schooled what? I said that they were buying up 1.6 billion rounds, you
challenged me, I put up the article....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:24 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some
people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and
some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few
obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes
and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people
who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun.






What surprises me is you and harry not reading what I said.. But do ego
on...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:27 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.



Now you are starting to sound like Loogie.... later... Cause of course
you found some ammo and MSNBC said.... LOL....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:28 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?


The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 02:40 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 10:24 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/





Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some
people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and
some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few
obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes
and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people
who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a
gun.






What surprises me is you and harry not reading what I said.. But do ego
on...


We both read what you posted. Richard and I share the ability to read
and to comprehend what we read. You have neither of those attributes.
Both of us independently came to the same conclusion about your post.

Whatever your other attributes, you are *not* equipped intellectually to
discuss current events. Richard and I disagree on a number of points
that relate to politics and current affairs, but I never for a moment
doubt his mental abilities, his abilities to understand the written
word, or his abilities to express himself. We simply have different
opinions.

You, on the other hand, are a dunce. Your opinions seem to be based on
whatever the latest right-wing media hot points are.

Hank©[_2_] March 29th 13 02:41 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 9:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?

--------------------------------------------

You didn't direct your question to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth:

Yes, I think it's stupid for private citizens to stockpile more ammo
than they reasonably need for home defense or as a hobby shooting at a
range.
Why? Because it's based on hysteria and only serves to create
shortages and drive the price of ammo up.

That said though, I also would not favor new laws restricting the
amount of ammo a private citizen can buy. If the preppers and fanatics
want to blow their money on ammo, it's their right. Eventually, it will
pass.

Realistically, the chances of needing a gun for personal/home defense is
very small and statistics prove that without a doubt. But, there's
always the possibility and I believe having a gun and knowing how to use
it to protect yourself or your family is prudent and responsible. I
also respect the opinion of those who don't want the responsibility or
just don't like guns. I never wanted one around when we had kids in
the house. But, now that I am older and the kids are on their own, I
felt it was an appropriate time to get a permit and gun. Since then,
I've discovered that I enjoy going to the range with some friends once
a week or so and becoming more proficient with shooting.

The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a
range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those
activities or hobbies.

This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the
ultra-right media dies down.




Gathering nuts is the natural thing to do when they become scarce for
whatever reason.
The only ones I see here obsessing about guns are JPS and Harry, two
radical left wingers.

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 02:42 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 10:27 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.



Now you are starting to sound like Loogie.... later... Cause of course
you found some ammo and MSNBC said.... LOL....



Didn't you know? Richard *is* Loogie, and up is down, and north is
south. It all makes sense, I am sure, in what passes for your brain.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:44 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.




Where exactly did I say "DHS buying up and *causing*..."?

Here is my post, see if you can follow it:)



Why do you think DHS is buying up all of the ammo, some 1.6 billion with
a B rounds as well as armored vehicles, drones, and other hardware until
now thought of as military gear, not "peace officer" gear?


Just so you don't "loogie" me... What I was complaining about was a
domestic org, buying military type ammo and armaments... I posted one
link of hundreds... You have gone off on some kind of tangent on
something I never said... But you and harry have admittedly had a blast,
keep forgetting why you said you were here... LOL!

Hank©[_2_] March 29th 13 02:46 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 10:28 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/





Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?


The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....


I wouldn't lump Eisboch together with those head cases.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 29th 13 02:51 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/2013 10:46 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 10:28 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/






Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?


The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....


I wouldn't lump Eisboch together with those head cases.


Well, if he keep doing the "loogie" on my posts...

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 02:56 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.





Schooled what? I said that they were buying up 1.6 billion rounds, you
challenged me, I put up the article....


Oh, boy. Did you overdose on stupid pills this morning? What do you
think the DHS did before, use rocks for ammo? They buy ammo all of the
time, you fool.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 02:57 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com


Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.


It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high
school in Connecticut.

=======================

What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated
people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share
Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some
people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and
some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few
obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the
conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes
and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people
who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun.






What surprises me is you and harry not reading what I said.. But do ego
on...


You may be too stupid to realize this but the agency buys ammo all of
the time.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 02:58 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.



Now you are starting to sound like Loogie.... later... Cause of course
you found some ammo and MSNBC said.... LOL....


Why, because loogy is usually right and you are usually stupid?

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 03:00 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/




Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?


The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....


No, you said that the DHS was panic buying ammo, when in fact it's just
a regular buy for them, they buy ammo all of the time, dumb ass.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 03:01 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 10:46 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 10:28 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/






Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?

The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....


I wouldn't lump Eisboch together with those head cases.


Well, if he keep doing the "loogie" on my posts...


Yeah, damned anybody who actually posts truths and facts as opposed to
your insane bull**** and lies.

F.O.A.D. March 29th 13 03:16 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On 3/29/13 10:51 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 10:46 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 10:28 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/29/2013 9:01 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/







Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.


You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for
ammo in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five
years, it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.






So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases
are you storing?

The whole thing is because I said DHS had 1.6b round on order including
hollow points (never said all hollow points), and posted an article that
supported what I said. Dick and harry loogie and don are just doing what
they do....


I wouldn't lump Eisboch together with those head cases.


Well, if he keep doing the "loogie" on my posts...



Your posts are looney, not loogie.

Wayne B March 29th 13 03:34 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:23:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a
range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those
activities or hobbies.

This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the
ultra-right media dies down.


=======

I agree that the hysteria will eventually pass but it's going to take
longer than we'd like. It's not just the right wing media that's a
problem however - the mainstream media is full of stories about "huge
ammunition caches of 1700 rounds" and that sort of thing. To a
serious target shooter 1700 rounds is about a two or three week
supply, maybe less, and they are probably buying in case lots. And
then we have "our president" going on mainstream media making
emotional appeals for more and more controls. It's not rocket
science or paranoia to deduce that he'd really like to ban privately
owned guns and ammo altogether.

True North[_2_] March 29th 13 03:41 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Friday, 29 March 2013 10:14:10 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/29/13 9:11 AM, True North wrote:

On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message




...








On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:












"F.O.A.D." wrote in message




...








On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:




... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and




Racheal




Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American




voter....








http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/
















Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg




usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't




like




the way I present it.












You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you




post




it and then claim "facts" not in play?








From your article:








Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up








Published March 23, 2013








| FoxNews.com












Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun




owners




and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid




sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.








Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently




drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more




boxes of ammo.








If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,




it




will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers




who




get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency




wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on




the




government's teat for five years.












----------------------------------








Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the




headlines only, not the article.












It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a




high




school in Connecticut.








=======================








What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated




people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share




Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but




some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same




talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are




a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the




conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them,




likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of




people who think the government is plotting to take away their right




to own a gun.




We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls.


People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms.


I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope.


Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year.


Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course.






Canadians and Canadian gun laws are far more rational than Americans and

American gun laws.



We do have our share of wackos... burying rifles and shotguns in the backyard so the gov't can't get them.
It all calmed down after most people realized the sky wasn't falling.
i was mostly concerned with what they were going to charge the gun owner for registering... at first it was $50. for 5 years and then dropped to 410 to encourage people to sign up. At the 5 year mark it was free to renew.. BUT.. I had to get the wife to sign my application saying she was ok with me having guns. That would probably sink half the righties in here.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 03:45 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/



Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

---------------------------------------------------------

Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I
had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more
coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They
had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement"
hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50.

So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage.




Where exactly did I say "DHS buying up and *causing*..."?

Here is my post, see if you can follow it:)



Why do you think DHS is buying up all of the ammo, some 1.6 billion with
a B rounds as well as armored vehicles, drones, and other hardware until
now thought of as military gear, not "peace officer" gear?


Just so you don't "loogie" me... What I was complaining about was a
domestic org, buying military type ammo and armaments... I posted one
link of hundreds... You have gone off on some kind of tangent on
something I never said... But you and harry have admittedly had a blast,
keep forgetting why you said you were here... LOL!


"buying up all the ammo". Bull****.

Wayne B March 29th 13 03:47 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:32:16 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

I said DHS was buying 1.6 billion rounds


====

Probably true, but it's probably not a cause for alarm either. It is
highly improbable that they are doing it to dry up the supply or some
other nefarious goal. DHS takes in a lot of territory and a lot of
armed personnel - USCG, US Customs & Border Patrol, FBI, Secret
Service, BATF, TSA, etc. My guess would be several hundred thousand
armed employees. That many people can burn through a huge amount of
ammo in training and practice. I've been anchored a few times within
hearing distance of the NYPD range in the Bronx. Over the course of
a day it sounds like there is a major war going on, including
automatic weapons fire. That's from less than a couple of hundred
cops at any given time.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 29th 13 03:47 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:23:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a
range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those
activities or hobbies.

This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the
ultra-right media dies down.


=======

I agree that the hysteria will eventually pass but it's going to take
longer than we'd like. It's not just the right wing media that's a
problem however - the mainstream media is full of stories about "huge
ammunition caches of 1700 rounds" and that sort of thing. To a
serious target shooter 1700 rounds is about a two or three week
supply, maybe less, and they are probably buying in case lots. And
then we have "our president" going on mainstream media making
emotional appeals for more and more controls. It's not rocket
science or paranoia to deduce that he'd really like to ban privately
owned guns and ammo altogether.


Yes, that's the thing with this allegation that Scotty is near and dear
to about a government agency buying a bunch of ammo. They buy a bunch of
ammo all of the time!!

True North[_2_] March 29th 13 03:47 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Friday, 29 March 2013 11:57:28 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On 3/29/2013 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:






"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:






"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal


Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American


voter....




http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/









Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg


usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like


the way I present it.






You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post


it and then claim "facts" not in play?




From your article:




Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up




Published March 23, 2013




| FoxNews.com






Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners


and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid


sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.




Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently


drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more


boxes of ammo.




If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it


will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who


get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency


wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the


government's teat for five years.






----------------------------------




Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the


headlines only, not the article.






It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high


school in Connecticut.




=======================




What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated


people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share


Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some


people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and


some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few


obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the


conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes


and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people


who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun.














What surprises me is you and harry not reading what I said.. But do ego


on...




You may be too stupid to realize this but the agency buys ammo all of

the time.



Wouldn't surprise me if they are buying more because they're worried about all the little wackos stocking up.
A vicious circle.

Urin Asshole March 29th 13 05:32 PM

Here you go Dick...
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:16:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and
Racheal
Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American
voter....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/


Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg
usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't
like
the way I present it.



You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you
post
it and then claim "facts" not in play?

From your article:

Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up

Published March 23, 2013

| FoxNews.com

Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo
shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and
state level stock up on firearms and bullets.

At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it
*wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next
four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply.

The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun
owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws.
States like Colorado and New York have already approved such
legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate
floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an
assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an
amendment.

Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as
lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of
tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek,
Wis.,
to Newtown, Conn.

------

The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass
purchases of ammo by a federal agency.

There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within
those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only
intending
to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo
in
most of the calibers available.

Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun
owners
and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid
sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks.

Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently
drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more
boxes of ammo.

If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years,
it
will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers
who
get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency
wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on
the
government's teat for five years.


----------------------------------

Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the
headlines only, not the article.




I think he needs someone to read to him and that person gets bored and
stops after the headline.


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