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Just dropped in to say 'hi' and see what's going on. I see nothing
much has changed. like soap opera's you can quit watching them for 6 mo. and still pick back up on them and not miss a beat. The same drama continues. Wayne, those are beautiful pics of your Caribbean cruise. I enjoy following your travels. Hope the 'ol "Fatboy" is holding in there, BTW I have another 320 set aside for you 'just in case'. And ...something else you might be interested in when you return to home port. Glad you could find parts for your generator, especially way 'down there' Cal Bill, nice boating post. That's awesome. Great travel log. John, enjoy your Sig. 250. Those are a good gun.Polymer bodied guns are a bit light for my taste, but that;s alright. But then again, I'm used to shooting ,45 govt,'s and 44 and ,357 steel framed revolvers. But my small frame Feg' Hungarian 9mm Mak. has an aluminum frame and that's light enough for me. Still an accurate little weapon for what it is, that is, when you finally get used to the snap of the recoil. Anyhow, I'll still be checking in occasionally, but I'm not gonna live in here like I used to. Until another time. Later. Tim |
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On 3/24/13 12:57 PM, Tim wrote:
Just dropped in to say 'hi' and see what's going on. I see nothing much has changed. like soap opera's you can quit watching them for 6 mo. and still pick back up on them and not miss a beat. The same drama continues. Wayne, those are beautiful pics of your Caribbean cruise. I enjoy following your travels. Hope the 'ol "Fatboy" is holding in there, BTW I have another 320 set aside for you 'just in case'. And ...something else you might be interested in when you return to home port. Glad you could find parts for your generator, especially way 'down there' Cal Bill, nice boating post. That's awesome. Great travel log. John, enjoy your Sig. 250. Those are a good gun.Polymer bodied guns are a bit light for my taste, but that;s alright. But then again, I'm used to shooting ,45 govt,'s and 44 and ,357 steel framed revolvers. But my small frame Feg' Hungarian 9mm Mak. has an aluminum frame and that's light enough for me. Still an accurate little weapon for what it is, that is, when you finally get used to the snap of the recoil. Anyhow, I'll still be checking in occasionally, but I'm not gonna live in here like I used to. Until another time. Later. Tim Happy Easter, Tim. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
Just dropped in to say 'hi' and see what's going on. I see nothing much has changed. like soap opera's you can quit watching them for 6 mo. and still pick back up on them and not miss a beat. The same drama continues. Wayne, those are beautiful pics of your Caribbean cruise. I enjoy following your travels. Hope the 'ol "Fatboy" is holding in there, BTW I have another 320 set aside for you 'just in case'. And ...something else you might be interested in when you return to home port. Glad you could find parts for your generator, especially way 'down there' Cal Bill, nice boating post. That's awesome. Great travel log. John, enjoy your Sig. 250. Those are a good gun.Polymer bodied guns are a bit light for my taste, but that;s alright. But then again, I'm used to shooting ,45 govt,'s and 44 and ,357 steel framed revolvers. But my small frame Feg' Hungarian 9mm Mak. has an aluminum frame and that's light enough for me. Still an accurate little weapon for what it is, that is, when you finally get used to the snap of the recoil. Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: Sig Sauer P250 Subcompact Handgun Key Features Modular System w/ Interchangeable Size & Caliber Double-Action-Only Stainless Steel Slide w/ Black Nitron Finish Lightweight Alloy Frame Anyhow, I'll still be checking in occasionally, but I'm not gonna live in here like I used to. Until another time. Later. Tim Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote:
Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. |
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On 3/24/13 3:25 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Just dropped in to say 'hi' and see what's going on. I see nothing much has changed. like soap opera's you can quit watching them for 6 mo. and still pick back up on them and not miss a beat. The same drama continues. Wayne, those are beautiful pics of your Caribbean cruise. I enjoy following your travels. Hope the 'ol "Fatboy" is holding in there, BTW I have another 320 set aside for you 'just in case'. And ...something else you might be interested in when you return to home port. Glad you could find parts for your generator, especially way 'down there' Cal Bill, nice boating post. That's awesome. Great travel log. John, enjoy your Sig. 250. Those are a good gun.Polymer bodied guns are a bit light for my taste, but that;s alright. But then again, I'm used to shooting ,45 govt,'s and 44 and ,357 steel framed revolvers. But my small frame Feg' Hungarian 9mm Mak. has an aluminum frame and that's light enough for me. Still an accurate little weapon for what it is, that is, when you finally get used to the snap of the recoil. Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: Sig Sauer P250 Subcompact Handgun Key Features Modular System w/ Interchangeable Size & Caliber Double-Action-Only Stainless Steel Slide w/ Black Nitron Finish Lightweight Alloy Frame Anyhow, I'll still be checking in occasionally, but I'm not gonna live in here like I used to. Until another time. Later. Tim Salmonbait Holy ****!!! You don't know the difference between an alloy and a polymer????? You shouldn't have a gun then, too stupid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer You saw that, too, eh? :) |
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I had looked at a S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" at my favorite gun shop a couple of weeks ago. It's small - classified as a "pocket" pistol - and has a polymer body. I had heard and read some good reviews but at the time I decided that it was just *too* small for my hand. But then I tried one at the range. A friend had purchased one as his primary "carry" gun. I was really surprised at how comfortable it was to shoot and, for a very lightweight pistol shooting 380 rounds, the recoil was far less than what I expected. So, I got one. It's ideal as a concealed carry if you are into that. Really don't need a holster. Just stick it in your pants pocket and after a while you forget it's even there. I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. The trigger pull is long which takes some getting used to but again I see that as an additional safety factor for a pistol you can carry in your pocket. Has a safety and a built-in laser. I like it. My Walther feels like a lead weight compared to it. I was going to check out the Ruger LCP .380 as well but thanks to our goofy and often conflicting governing agencies in this state, it is not MA compliant. I think they put the serial number in an offending place or something. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. ---------------------------------------- Obviously meant the "hammer" .... not the trigger. |
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On 3/24/13 4:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. ---------------------------------------- Obviously meant the "hammer" .... not the trigger. Well, that pistol does have a safety. |
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On Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:53:37 PM UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. SNERK! This ranks up there with his 2 cycle oil fiasco. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. Thanks, ESAD, you're such a joy to have around. BTW, I've finished my taxes, so am free to give you some help. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/24/13 4:42 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:53:37 PM UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. SNERK! This ranks up there with his 2 cycle oil fiasco. And Herring was a Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Army. I'll bet his troops called him Gomer Pyle. In one episode of Mayberry, R.F.D., Gomer, who worked as an auto mechanic, mistook a carburetor for a hood ornament. Herring is one half step up the brainpower ladder from PsychoSnotty and that idiot Canadian Scotty, "etc." |
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On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. Thanks, ESAD, you're such a joy to have around. BTW, I've finished my taxes, so am free to give you some help. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Mine were filed weeks ago, John the Racist, and I even got a small refund via electronic deposit. |
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On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. I never field stripped the gun model you bought, so I don't know in your case, but it is possible for the frame to be polymer, with metal inserts. Glocks have a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who spent so much time in the army, and, as an officer, you sure don't know much about firearms. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:13:54 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I had looked at a S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" at my favorite gun shop a couple of weeks ago. It's small - classified as a "pocket" pistol - and has a polymer body. I had heard and read some good reviews but at the time I decided that it was just *too* small for my hand. But then I tried one at the range. A friend had purchased one as his primary "carry" gun. I was really surprised at how comfortable it was to shoot and, for a very lightweight pistol shooting 380 rounds, the recoil was far less than what I expected. So, I got one. It's ideal as a concealed carry if you are into that. Really don't need a holster. Just stick it in your pants pocket and after a while you forget it's even there. I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. The trigger pull is long which takes some getting used to but again I see that as an additional safety factor for a pistol you can carry in your pocket. Has a safety and a built-in laser. I like it. My Walther feels like a lead weight compared to it. I was going to check out the Ruger LCP .380 as well but thanks to our goofy and often conflicting governing agencies in this state, it is not MA compliant. I think they put the serial number in an offending place or something. The Sig 250 is a bit bigger than the Bodyguard and weighs about twice as much. It's called a subcompact, but the barrel length is almost a full inch longer than the one on the Bodyguard. The metal frame probably accounts for most of the weight difference. Except for one, the reviews I've read have been pretty good. Of course, the 'one' was right here in rec.boats! The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. But, who knows. Actually, the big pusher for a smaller pistol was my wife, who liked the size of her sister's Walther PK380. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:58:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. I never field stripped the gun model you bought, so I don't know in your case, but it is possible for the frame to be polymer, with metal inserts. Glocks have a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who spent so much time in the army, and, as an officer, you sure don't know much about firearms. No, it's not a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who knows everything about everything, you seem to have a lot of trouble with social skills. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:58:01 PM UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. I never field stripped the gun model you bought, so I don't know in your case, but it is possible for the frame to be polymer, with metal inserts. Glocks have a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who spent so much time in the army, and, as an officer, you sure don't know much about firearms. Remember that old Phil Silvers comedy show where he was in the army? Johnny would have been at home in that unit. |
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On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote:
The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues In the late 1990s, U.S. employees expressed concerns to the Austrian gun maker regarding the Glock 22 Glock markets its weapons as "safe action pistols." But internal company documents reviewed by BusinessWeek—and reported here for the first time—reveal that in the late 1990s, company employees in the U.S. expressed concern about the safe performance of the Glock 22, a model commonly used by American police officers. If these documents had surfaced in injury lawsuits filed over the years against Glock, they could have created potentially serious liability trouble for the company, according to plaintiffs' lawyers. "Documents of this sort were requested in pretrial discovery by us and by lawyers in other cases," says Daniel G. Abel, an attorney who helped represent the city of New Orleans in an ultimately unsuccessful lawsuit against the gun industry in the late 1990s. "These documents should have been disclosed in discovery. There is no excuse—no legitimate excuse—for their not being disclosed." Glock's general counsel, Carlos Guevara, said in a written response: "Glock pistols are remarkably safe and reliable, historically and currently, and are of exceedingly high quality.…When involved in products liability cases, we respond to discovery requests following the rules of the jurisdiction, evidentiary rules and practices, and pursuant to the laws of the United States and orders of the courts." Safety has long been a point of contention for Glock of Austria. Unlike most handguns, which have external on-off safeties, Glock pistols are equipped with internal mechanisms that prevent firing. These internal safeties are disengaged merely by depressing the trigger. ** The ability to fire immediately, without worrying about an external safety, is one feature Glock has stressed as an advantage when selling its guns, especially to police departments.** Skeptics see this feature in a different light. The Consumer Federation of America has cited the Glock's design as one reason the gun has been the subject of dozens of lawsuits filed after unintentional shootings, including a number by police officers. The company has won or confidentially settled most of these cases without acknowledging any liability. Paul F. Jannuzzo, Glock's former top executive in the U.S., says in an interview that, overall, the company's pistols are as safe as comparable handguns—and more durable. "The one problem," he says, "was [the Glock] would go off sometimes when it wasn't supposed to." Occasional Jamming Another problem that surfaced in the 1990s and persisted for years thereafter was occasional jamming, Jannuzzo says. In 1998 he and other Glock officials in the U.S. discovered guns that failed to fire properly. "These malfunctions were very difficult to clear and could not be cleared with the normal 'tap, rack' drill," stated a Feb. 12, 1998, memo from American employees to Glock founder and owner Gaston Glock entitled "Performance of G 22s." "Law enforcement officers see this type of stoppage as a serious failure and one which has life-threatening implications," the memo added. "If these were received by the FBI or DEA [both Glock customers], they would immediately suspend the contract and demand a retest or other action." The memo described tests on eight sample guns that were fired more than 2,000 times in all. "In particular, we are concerned with the difference in the poor test results in the U.S., compared with the better results achieved in Austria," the memo told Gaston Glock. The company manufactures parts in Austria and assembles guns for the American market at a plant outside Atlanta. Four days later, on Feb. 16, Jannuzzo followed up with a letter to Gaston Glock. Jannuzzo disputed the contention by company executives in Austria that the malfunctioning pistols needed a "breaking-in period," after which they would work properly. This notion "flies in the face of the Glock pistol's reputation as being the best shooting semi-automatic 'out of the box,'" Jannuzzo wrote. In an interview, Jannuzzo adds: "It was a problem, and it was much more of a problem than they [executives in Austria] wanted to admit.…They never knew which guns were going to break." Guevara, the Glock general counsel, disagreed: "Each pistol undergoes numerous quality control checks throughout the manufacturing and assembly process.…Additionally, the firearms industry is highly regulated in the United States (and internationally), and Glock fully complies with all rules and regulations with respect to every aspect of Glock's business, including sales." - - - - Have fun, and report back when your 30 years of military experience with firearms results in a BANG! accident. |
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On 3/24/13 5:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:58:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. I never field stripped the gun model you bought, so I don't know in your case, but it is possible for the frame to be polymer, with metal inserts. Glocks have a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who spent so much time in the army, and, as an officer, you sure don't know much about firearms. No, it's not a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who knows everything about everything, you seem to have a lot of trouble with social skills. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I treat each person I meet as *they* deserve. You're a racist ****head, and I treat you accordingly. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:04:21 -0400, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:13:54 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I had looked at a S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" at my favorite gun shop a couple of weeks ago. It's small - classified as a "pocket" pistol - and has a polymer body. I had heard and read some good reviews but at the time I decided that it was just *too* small for my hand. But then I tried one at the range. A friend had purchased one as his primary "carry" gun. I was really surprised at how comfortable it was to shoot and, for a very lightweight pistol shooting 380 rounds, the recoil was far less than what I expected. So, I got one. It's ideal as a concealed carry if you are into that. Really don't need a holster. Just stick it in your pants pocket and after a while you forget it's even there. I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. The trigger pull is long which takes some getting used to but again I see that as an additional safety factor for a pistol you can carry in your pocket. Has a safety and a built-in laser. I like it. My Walther feels like a lead weight compared to it. I was going to check out the Ruger LCP .380 as well but thanks to our goofy and often conflicting governing agencies in this state, it is not MA compliant. I think they put the serial number in an offending place or something. The Sig 250 is a bit bigger than the Bodyguard and weighs about twice as much. It's called a subcompact, but the barrel length is almost a full inch longer than the one on the Bodyguard. The metal frame probably accounts for most of the weight difference. Except for one, the reviews I've read have been pretty good. Of course, the 'one' was right here in rec.boats! The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. But, who knows. Actually, the big pusher for a smaller pistol was my wife, who liked the size of her sister's Walther PK380. Salmonbait Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:11:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues Guess I won't be buying a Glock! If you don't like trigger safeties, don't buy a gun with a trigger safety. If you don't like babies, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/24/13 5:17 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:11:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues Guess I won't be buying a Glock! If you don't like trigger safeties, don't buy a gun with a trigger safety. If you don't like babies, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. *Your* P250 has a trigger safety and is subject to the same problems as the Glock. A trigger safety is not a safety. |
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On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote:
Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:20:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:17 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:11:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues Guess I won't be buying a Glock! If you don't like trigger safeties, don't buy a gun with a trigger safety. If you don't like babies, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. *Your* P250 has a trigger safety and is subject to the same problems as the Glock. A trigger safety is not a safety. ....and a late term abortion is not killing a baby. ESAD, it must be great to know it all, huh? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/24/13 5:30 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:20:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:17 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:11:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues Guess I won't be buying a Glock! If you don't like trigger safeties, don't buy a gun with a trigger safety. If you don't like babies, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. *Your* P250 has a trigger safety and is subject to the same problems as the Glock. A trigger safety is not a safety. ...and a late term abortion is not killing a baby. ESAD, it must be great to know it all, huh? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Obviously, in your case, ignorance is bliss. You seem to have a fetish about abortions. Any in your family, any that should have happened? |
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On 3/24/2013 4:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. Thanks, ESAD, you're such a joy to have around. BTW, I've finished my taxes, so am free to give you some help. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Mine were filed weeks ago, John the Racist, and I even got a small refund via electronic deposit. Which year, 1990? |
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On 3/24/2013 5:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:06 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:58:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:53:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 2:44 PM, J Herring wrote: Does lightweight alloy mean polymer? This is off the Bander Mountain site: No, John, a lightweight or even a heavyweight alloy does *not* mean polymer. Wasn't chemistry part of your liberal arts education? Good grief. I didn't think so. Therefore the frame isn't polymer. I never field stripped the gun model you bought, so I don't know in your case, but it is possible for the frame to be polymer, with metal inserts. Glocks have a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who spent so much time in the army, and, as an officer, you sure don't know much about firearms. No, it's not a polymer frame with metal inserts. For a guy who knows everything about everything, you seem to have a lot of trouble with social skills. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I treat each person I meet as *they* deserve. You're a racist ****head, and I treat you accordingly. Actually, you are a horrible judge of character, and that will probably get your nose flattened someday. If not worse. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:34:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:30 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:20:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:17 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:11:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: The trigger pull on the P250 is also pretty long, as it's double action only. The safety is a trigger safety, but I don't see myself carrying the thing with a round in the chamber. Ahh, an adaptation of the famous GLOCK trigger safety, which isn't a safety at all. Pull the trigger, the gun goes BANG! A real safety prevents the firearm from firing, even if the trigger is pulled. Trigger safety. Here's an article about "trigger safeties." http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...-safety-issues Guess I won't be buying a Glock! If you don't like trigger safeties, don't buy a gun with a trigger safety. If you don't like babies, don't get pregnant. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. *Your* P250 has a trigger safety and is subject to the same problems as the Glock. A trigger safety is not a safety. ...and a late term abortion is not killing a baby. ESAD, it must be great to know it all, huh? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Obviously, in your case, ignorance is bliss. You seem to have a fetish about abortions. Any in your family, any that should have happened? As a matter of fact, that would be a no. But, I'll bet you were hopin', right? Have you ever noticed that all those pro-abortion folks were born? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg |
Speaking of polymer ...
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Speaking of polymer ...
J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. |
Howdy...
The Sig 250 I shot was a Polymer frame. They might be in Alloy or Steel now, the one I worked with was Polymer. http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=19072 "When SIG introduced the P250 series of polymer framed, modular pistols in 2009, the marketing hype surrounding those guns made it easy for potential customers to forget that SIG had already been making polymer guns in the same calibers for a decade. It seemed like the SIG SP2022 was destined to be one of the best-kept secrets of pistol world...." |
Howdy...
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:13:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
The Sig 250 I shot was a Polymer frame. They might be in Alloy or Steel now, the one I worked with was Polymer. http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=19072 "When SIG introduced the P250 series of polymer framed, modular pistols in 2009, the marketing hype surrounding those guns made it easy for potential customers to forget that SIG had already been making polymer guns in the same calibers for a decade. It seemed like the SIG SP2022 was destined to be one of the best-kept secrets of pistol world...." I think the new one is 'Gen 2', from what I've read. It's metal framed. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 3/24/2013 6:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. You also didn't expect the IRS to get the last laugh, did you? What did that mistake cost you in interest. Heap big wampum, I'll bet. Snerk. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 24 Mar 2013 22:34:39 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:
J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. I know you were too smart to get drafted, enlist, or have anything to do with the military except work for that general in Vietnam. Remember telling us about that? Were you over there protesting? Jane Fonda in disguise? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 3/24/2013 8:01 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 24 Mar 2013 22:34:39 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. I know you were too smart to get drafted, enlist, or have anything to do with the military except work for that general in Vietnam. Remember telling us about that? Were you over there protesting? Jane Fonda in disguise? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. He worked under the general. |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 3/24/13 8:01 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 24 Mar 2013 22:34:39 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. I know you were too smart to get drafted, enlist, or have anything to do with the military except work for that general in Vietnam. Remember telling us about that? Were you over there protesting? Jane Fonda in disguise? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I wasn't "too smart" to get drafted, Herring. I simply wasn't drafted. Most young men my age were not drafted. You knew that, right? There was no reason to enlist; I didn't believe the bull**** about Vietnam, and I had no reason to want to kill the people of Vietnam. I spent a month as a reporter and then six months later, about six months in Vietnam, but as a civilian employee of the Department of Defense. My job had nothing to do with killing anyone for any reason. |
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On 3/24/2013 9:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 8:01 PM, J Herring wrote: On 24 Mar 2013 22:34:39 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:01:29 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:21:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 5:12 PM, J Herring wrote: Speaking of my wife, she called a few minutes ago to see if I wanted speed loaders for the revolvers. She's taking her firearms class now, and I gave her the M&P9 and a S&W Chief's Special (.38 Special) to learn on. It's a five hour class for females taught by a female. Apparently she's having a pretty good time. She'll probably come home with her own arsenal. Oh well, at least I won't have to feed 'em and shovel poop! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Sounds like the Shooting at the Herring Corral will be a good 'un. I know you're hopin', ESAD! Here, this'll put you in a better mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not hoping, Herring. I'm just expecting it. You seem to have a cavalier attitude towards firearms. Oh, and since you seem to like syrupy patriotism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoI4jL3Hbg I assume you could translate that, I couldn't. But, I'm sure your ears are much better than mine - I couldn't escape the draft, you know. Here, this has some words you'll agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0t7ZUwzGA Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I didn't escape the draft. Like most young men back then, I wasn't drafted. And I wasn't so dumb that I would enlist to fight the people of Vietnam or for that corrupt regime in Saigon. I know you were too smart to get drafted, enlist, or have anything to do with the military except work for that general in Vietnam. Remember telling us about that? Were you over there protesting? Jane Fonda in disguise? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I wasn't "too smart" to get drafted, Herring. I simply wasn't drafted. Most young men my age were not drafted. You knew that, right? There was no reason to enlist; I didn't believe the bull**** about Vietnam, and I had no reason to want to kill the people of Vietnam. I spent a month as a reporter and then six months later, about six months in Vietnam, but as a civilian employee of the Department of Defense. My job had nothing to do with killing anyone for any reason. I remember your story as John remembered it. Why are you changing it now? |
Speaking of polymer ...
On 3/24/2013 4:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... I like the fact that the trigger is not exposed, so it can't catch on anything. ---------------------------------------- Obviously meant the "hammer" .... not the trigger. That's what I like about the Ruger. They even make a pink one for my girls:) |
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