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Meyer[_2_] March 16th 13 09:41 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/16/2013 4:42 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Most of the waitresses in the P.F. restaurant are astonishingly
beautiful. If were a young man, I hang out there and try to date them all.


Be grateful for what you've got.

Meyer[_2_] March 16th 13 09:44 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/16/2013 5:41 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 3/16/2013 4:42 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Most of the waitresses in the P.F. restaurant are astonishingly
beautiful. If were a young man, I hang out there and try to date them
all.


Be grateful for what you've got.


Even though she can't measure up to Sarah Palin. ;-)

J Herring March 17th 13 01:21 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:42:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 4:16 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 16 Mar 2013 19:16:23 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:43:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:27 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:21:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:22:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

I heard the food is great though, but there are lots of obese people.

On a Carnival boat, the food is like you get at a Carnival, plenty of
it but not that great.
All I can say about the obese people is one of the "emergencies" is
that the elevators stopped working. There are 8-12 foot wide stair
cases throughout the ship but most of these lard asses are waiting for
the elevator, just to go up one deck.

We have a rule on a cruise, never use the elevator. There is too much
eating and not enough exercise the way it is.



I don't see how the food on a massive "for the masses" ship could be
"great,"

That's 'cause you've not been on a Disney cruise. You should have stopped right there.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!



Yeah, and I don't frequent "all you can eat" cafeterias much, either.

That's great! I'm sure you've eaten only at the finest restaurants.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Our favorite local restaurants are family owned and operated and are not
fancy...and don't serve cruise ship fare.


I can vouch for that, having eaten at many of your local restaurants!


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


You should try:

Jerry's for seafood, just south of P.F. on the right hand side, next to,
of all places, a tire store.

Mexico, just north of P.F., also on the right hand side, very good
Mexican food, and where I usually have my oversized once a year margarita.

Mama Lucia, in Dunkirk and in P.F., has great pizza and many other very
good homemade Italian dishes. Most of the waitresses in the P.F.
restaurant are astonishingly beautiful. If were a young man, I hang out
there and try to date them all.


Might do one of those week after next. We're going to Solomon's for a few days to 'chill' and see if
the trailer functions as it should.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

J Herring March 17th 13 01:24 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.


Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion


Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 01:26 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 9:21 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:42:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 4:16 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 16 Mar 2013 19:16:23 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:43:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:27 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:21:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:22:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

I heard the food is great though, but there are lots of obese people.

On a Carnival boat, the food is like you get at a Carnival, plenty of
it but not that great.
All I can say about the obese people is one of the "emergencies" is
that the elevators stopped working. There are 8-12 foot wide stair
cases throughout the ship but most of these lard asses are waiting for
the elevator, just to go up one deck.

We have a rule on a cruise, never use the elevator. There is too much
eating and not enough exercise the way it is.



I don't see how the food on a massive "for the masses" ship could be
"great,"

That's 'cause you've not been on a Disney cruise. You should have stopped right there.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!



Yeah, and I don't frequent "all you can eat" cafeterias much, either.

That's great! I'm sure you've eaten only at the finest restaurants.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Our favorite local restaurants are family owned and operated and are not
fancy...and don't serve cruise ship fare.

I can vouch for that, having eaten at many of your local restaurants!


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


You should try:

Jerry's for seafood, just south of P.F. on the right hand side, next to,
of all places, a tire store.

Mexico, just north of P.F., also on the right hand side, very good
Mexican food, and where I usually have my oversized once a year margarita.

Mama Lucia, in Dunkirk and in P.F., has great pizza and many other very
good homemade Italian dishes. Most of the waitresses in the P.F.
restaurant are astonishingly beautiful. If were a young man, I hang out
there and try to date them all.


Might do one of those week after next. We're going to Solomon's for a few days to 'chill' and see if
the trailer functions as it should.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!



If you go to Jerry's, avoid the dinner rush hour on the
weekends...because the lines get "impressive." Try a late lunch or a 4
pm dinner. There's usually a long list of "specials" the server will
recite for you.

http://jerrys-place.com/

Meyer[_2_] March 17th 13 01:36 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion


Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

J Herring March 17th 13 02:29 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion


Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


J Herring March 17th 13 02:30 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:26:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 9:21 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:42:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 4:16 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 16 Mar 2013 19:16:23 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:43:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:27 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:21:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:22:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

I heard the food is great though, but there are lots of obese people.

On a Carnival boat, the food is like you get at a Carnival, plenty of
it but not that great.
All I can say about the obese people is one of the "emergencies" is
that the elevators stopped working. There are 8-12 foot wide stair
cases throughout the ship but most of these lard asses are waiting for
the elevator, just to go up one deck.

We have a rule on a cruise, never use the elevator. There is too much
eating and not enough exercise the way it is.



I don't see how the food on a massive "for the masses" ship could be
"great,"

That's 'cause you've not been on a Disney cruise. You should have stopped right there.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!



Yeah, and I don't frequent "all you can eat" cafeterias much, either.

That's great! I'm sure you've eaten only at the finest restaurants.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Our favorite local restaurants are family owned and operated and are not
fancy...and don't serve cruise ship fare.

I can vouch for that, having eaten at many of your local restaurants!


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


You should try:

Jerry's for seafood, just south of P.F. on the right hand side, next to,
of all places, a tire store.

Mexico, just north of P.F., also on the right hand side, very good
Mexican food, and where I usually have my oversized once a year margarita.

Mama Lucia, in Dunkirk and in P.F., has great pizza and many other very
good homemade Italian dishes. Most of the waitresses in the P.F.
restaurant are astonishingly beautiful. If were a young man, I hang out
there and try to date them all.


Might do one of those week after next. We're going to Solomon's for a few days to 'chill' and see if
the trailer functions as it should.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!



If you go to Jerry's, avoid the dinner rush hour on the
weekends...because the lines get "impressive." Try a late lunch or a 4
pm dinner. There's usually a long list of "specials" the server will
recite for you.

http://jerrys-place.com/


We'll give it a shot. Thanks.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


True North[_2_] March 17th 13 02:32 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:36:15 AM UTC-3, Meyer wrote:
On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:




On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring


wrote:




We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon


next.




Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?






We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.


Bryce Canyon and Zion




Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and


Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.






Salmonbait




--


Hope you're having a spectacular day!






It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the

countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the

creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.



Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat

smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


Why...you and Snottie planning a little romantic getaway?

F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 02:36 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.

J Herring March 17th 13 03:43 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.


A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 03:51 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.


A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I enjoy.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 17th 13 04:02 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 11:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing
Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so,
will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This
year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all
the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or
whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book
called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we
bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main
criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks,
couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in
to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.


A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a
meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot
of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company
she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I enjoy.



Are all of your decisions made specifically to please you personally?
Seems most of your ideals are based on that "me" mentality...

J Herring March 17th 13 04:14 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:51:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.


A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I enjoy.


If I had to go, and could afford the time, I'd plan a month or two, take the trailer, and see the
country. There is a lot of beautiful country between here and Seattle - going the northern, middle,
or southern routes. I've never found the trip, which I've made by car twice now, to be boring or
'blech'. Yeah, Kansas can get dull, so go thru Minnesota and North Dakota and Wyoming instead. I've
never met another person who thought this country was 'blech' for the most part.

But, each to his own.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Meyer[_2_] March 17th 13 04:20 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.


A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


No doubt it's a junket his wife was invited to. He's tagging along like
a good puppy.

F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 04:28 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 12:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/17/2013 11:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring

wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing
Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so,
will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This
year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all
the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or
whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book
called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we
bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main
criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks,
couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in
to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At
least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.

A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a
meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot
of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company
she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I
enjoy.



Are all of your decisions made specifically to please you personally?
Seems most of your ideals are based on that "me" mentality...



You're kidding, right? I'm invited to a meeting in Seattle, all expenses
paid, and I should turn it down because I could "skype" there, even
though the sponsor wants his employees and consultants there in person?

No, I don't like driving long distances and if there is an alternative,
I'll take it.

F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 04:40 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:51:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks, couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.

A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I enjoy.


If I had to go, and could afford the time, I'd plan a month or two, take the trailer, and see the
country. There is a lot of beautiful country between here and Seattle - going the northern, middle,
or southern routes. I've never found the trip, which I've made by car twice now, to be boring or
'blech'. Yeah, Kansas can get dull, so go thru Minnesota and North Dakota and Wyoming instead. I've
never met another person who thought this country was 'blech' for the most part.

But, each to his own.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I don't like driving long distances. We visit Florida a few times a year
for various reasons, and most of the time we either fly or take the
train. The drive isn't bad if we break it up and spend the night in a
motel somewhere, but driving straight through is not something we enjoy.
I've had trips to Minnesota, the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana, and there
are plenty of beautiful places, but I've never felt the need to drive
there to get to them when I can fly there and rent a car. To each his own.



F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 05:13 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:



Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


This is your vacation. Get off the extra few bucks and fly first
class.
They don't screw with you about your bags, you have a quick line
through ticketing and security and they treat you a lot nicer on the
plane. Oh and you can change your ticket or even get your money back.

It is like what flying used to be 40 years ago, inflation adjusted,
about the same price.



I wasn't going to mention that fact. Frequent flyer miles are your friend.

J Herring March 17th 13 05:22 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:45:37 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:24:41 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion


Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so, will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait


We spent a week in the Tetons on our Idaho Wyoming trip (Grand Targhee
resort) That is 8000 feet, going up to over 10,000 so air is hard to
come by ;-)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Idaho%20Wyo...t%20Targee.jpg
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Idaho%20Wyo...etons%20Wy.jpg
That was a good starting place to get to Jackson
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Idaho%20Wyo...etons%20Wy.jpg
and the south entrance into Yellowstone that lets you avoid all of
those crowds around Old Faithful.

We then looped around through Montana and spent a few days at Coeur
D'alene. That is another nice place.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Idaho%20Wyo...ne%20Idaho.jpg

We all saw beach volley ball on TV but they play in the mud in Idaho.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Idaho%20Wyo...0Arco%20ID.jpg


Some great shots. Don't know if I'd want to drag the trailer up that first road, but there's
probably a campsite down below. Mud volleyball looks like it could be an interesting thing to watch,
depending on the players.

Did you rent the boat at Coeur D'alene? Where'd you pick up the stunning beauty?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


JustWaitAFrekinMinute March 17th 13 05:31 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:14:28 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Yeah, Kansas can get dull, so go thru Minnesota and North Dakota and Wyoming instead. I've
never met another person who thought this country was 'blech' for the most part.


North Dakota can get pretty boring too if you just drive 80 looking
out the window. You have to get out and look around.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/ND%20badlands.jpg


Every offroaders dream:)

F.O.A.D. March 17th 13 05:39 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/13 1:27 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:40:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I don't like driving long distances. We visit Florida a few times a year
for various reasons, and most of the time we either fly or take the
train. The drive isn't bad if we break it up and spend the night in a
motel somewhere, but driving straight through is not something we enjoy.
I've had trips to Minnesota, the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana, and there
are plenty of beautiful places, but I've never felt the need to drive
there to get to them when I can fly there and rent a car. To each his own.


We always fly and rent a car somewhere along the route we want to take
on the driving part. Sometimes it is a loop, other times we fly back
from a different place.


The airlines have complicated flying so much these days, it isn't that
easy to "fly back from a different place." We flew to Ft. Lauderdale
last year to see friends and also wanted to see friends up between
Daytona and Orlando, and arranging a "round trip" returning from Orlando
was a colossal pain in the ass, cash outlay wise.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 17th 13 06:03 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/17/2013 11:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/17/13 11:43 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:36:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/17/13 10:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 9:24 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:32:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:16:05 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

We are kinda burnt on the Caribbean. It looks like we are doing
Oregon
next.

Have you seen the sites in southern Utah yet?


We were up here a ways on the Arizona New Mexico trip.
Bryce Canyon and Zion

Two of the best. Our next big, i.e., longer than a week or so,
will probably be to Yellowstone and
Grand Teton, with sightseeing in between. Maybe next year. This
year's getting booked pretty solid.


Salmonbait

--
Hope you're having a spectacular day!


It must be a real drag pulling that luxurious 5th wheel all over the
countryside and seeing all those marvelous sites while enjoying all
the
creature comforts and not having to deal with suitcases.

Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?

Been there, done that, it sucks!

My wife is the navigator. She's got the little ipad or pod or
whatever the hell it is that connects
to the internet while we're traveling. She also bought a book
called, "Next Exit" which is a great
source of info while traveling on the interstates. The trailer we
bought is nice in that everything
can be used without using the slideouts. That was one of the main
criteria in choosing it. Many of
the floor pans don't allow access to refer's, stoves, sinks,
couches, etc. when the slides are in.
That means 'setting up' to spend the night somewhere. We can pull in
to a 'Flying J' and spend the
night with all the comforts - and it's free!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



I was in Chicago for a few days last week. It's about 750 miles from
here and is at least a 12 hour drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio, and
Indiana, along routes best "flown over." Blech. Took a jet, had aisle
seat both ways.

Hour and a half flight each way. Plus an hour arrival early at the
airport. No luggage wait, since I used a carry-on bag.

Got a meeting coming up in Seattle later this year. 2800 miles. At least
two days worth of driving if you don't stop for very long. No thanks.

To each his own.

A trailer is not the thing to take on jobs. Flying to Seattle for a
meeting sounds like the planners
have their heads up their butts. Do it over Skype. My wife does a lot
of conference calling and
meeting attendance from home using software provided by the company
she's consulting for.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.



Skype is ok. I use it with one of my programmer sources, who lives in
India. Sometimes, though, you just "gotta be there." Besides, I like
visiting the Left Coast, though the long flights are not something I enjoy.



Are all of your decisions made specifically to please you personally?
Seems most of your ideals are based on that "me" mentality...


WTF? Should he NOT like going to the left coast just because you either
don't like it, or can't afford it?

J Herring March 17th 13 06:57 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:23:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:14:28 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Yeah, Kansas can get dull, so go thru Minnesota and North Dakota and Wyoming instead. I've
never met another person who thought this country was 'blech' for the most part.


North Dakota can get pretty boring too if you just drive 80 looking
out the window. You have to get out and look around.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/dakota/ND%20badlands.jpg

'xactly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Meyer[_2_] March 17th 13 10:58 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:



Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


This is your vacation. Get off the extra few bucks and fly first
class.
They don't screw with you about your bags, you have a quick line
through ticketing and security and they treat you a lot nicer on the
plane. Oh and you can change your ticket or even get your money back.

It is like what flying used to be 40 years ago, inflation adjusted,
about the same price.

I used to fly several times a week. On occasion I got bumped to FC. To
me, it isn't worth the extra cost. Flying ain't what it used to be. I
dread the prospect of ever having to fly again. But, of course, to each
his own. That's what I've been preaching to Harry lately.

J Herring March 18th 13 12:11 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:58:57 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:36:15 -0400, Meyer wrote:



Ever think of sandwiching yourself into an airplane between two fat
smelly people and doing a flyover instead?


This is your vacation. Get off the extra few bucks and fly first
class.
They don't screw with you about your bags, you have a quick line
through ticketing and security and they treat you a lot nicer on the
plane. Oh and you can change your ticket or even get your money back.

It is like what flying used to be 40 years ago, inflation adjusted,
about the same price.

I used to fly several times a week. On occasion I got bumped to FC. To
me, it isn't worth the extra cost. Flying ain't what it used to be. I
dread the prospect of ever having to fly again. But, of course, to each
his own. That's what I've been preaching to Harry lately.


Whether first class or coach, I hate flying. During a one-year assignment to Korea I made the round
trip four times. That's enough.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Meyer[_2_] March 18th 13 02:29 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/17/2013 11:27 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:58:57 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 12:50 PM,
wrote:


This is your vacation. Get off the extra few bucks and fly first
class.
They don't screw with you about your bags, you have a quick line
through ticketing and security and they treat you a lot nicer on the
plane. Oh and you can change your ticket or even get your money back.

It is like what flying used to be 40 years ago, inflation adjusted,
about the same price.

I used to fly several times a week. On occasion I got bumped to FC. To
me, it isn't worth the extra cost. Flying ain't what it used to be. I
dread the prospect of ever having to fly again. But, of course, to each
his own. That's what I've been preaching to Harry lately.


Some of the biggest advantages to first class come before you get to
the plane. We pack pretty heavy and it is nice not having to worry
about heavy bag fees, too many bag fees etc.
I take a big duffel bag and a cooler, my wife takes 2 bags. Coming
home we might have 1 or 2 more "something"

I don't need a cooler. I bring a full size residential style
refrigerator with me when I travel and we have an 8 ft long full sized
closet. To each his own. ;-)

Meyer[_2_] March 18th 13 04:52 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/2013 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:29:07 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 11:27 PM,
wrote:

Some of the biggest advantages to first class come before you get to
the plane. We pack pretty heavy and it is nice not having to worry
about heavy bag fees, too many bag fees etc.
I take a big duffel bag and a cooler, my wife takes 2 bags. Coming
home we might have 1 or 2 more "something"

I don't need a cooler. I bring a full size residential style
refrigerator with me when I travel and we have an 8 ft long full sized
closet. To each his own. ;-)


If I was going on vacation within a day's drive, I would but when I am
going out west I do not want to be driving for 4 or 5 days each way.
It takes a long day's drive, just to get out of Florida. I am 650
miles from the Alabama state line. Going straight north to Georgia is
well over 300.

It's not the destination, it's the journey, is the way I look at it.

Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?



Eisboch[_8_] March 18th 13 05:23 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

It's not the destination, it's the journey, is the way I look at it.

Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look
up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?

-----------------------------------------------

One of my most memorable trips was an impulsive drive from MA to
Denver Colorado to pickup a vintage '55 Ford F-100 that a guy had for
sale.
I drove the F-350 diesel I had at the time towing a car trailer.
Travelled alone, lots of things to see and time to reflect on stuff in
general.
Great trip. I think I turned the steering wheel very slightly two or
three times while in Nebraska.




iBoaterer[_3_] March 18th 13 05:32 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/18/2013 12:35 PM,
wrote:

If I was going on vacation within a day's drive, I would but when I am
going out west I do not want to be driving for 4 or 5 days each way.
It takes a long day's drive, just to get out of Florida. I am 650
miles from the Alabama state line. Going straight north to Georgia is
well over 300.

It's not the destination, it's the journey, is the way I look at it.

Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places


Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.

F.O.A.D. March 18th 13 05:44 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/13 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:29:07 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 11:27 PM,
wrote:

Some of the biggest advantages to first class come before you get to
the plane. We pack pretty heavy and it is nice not having to worry
about heavy bag fees, too many bag fees etc.
I take a big duffel bag and a cooler, my wife takes 2 bags. Coming
home we might have 1 or 2 more "something"

I don't need a cooler. I bring a full size residential style
refrigerator with me when I travel and we have an 8 ft long full sized
closet. To each his own. ;-)


If I was going on vacation within a day's drive, I would but when I am
going out west I do not want to be driving for 4 or 5 days each way.
It takes a long day's drive, just to get out of Florida. I am 650
miles from the Alabama state line. Going straight north to Georgia is
well over 300.



Your time is valuable to you. Mired's time is worthless.

F.O.A.D. March 18th 13 05:51 PM

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On 3/18/13 1:23 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

It's not the destination, it's the journey, is the way I look at it.

Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?

-----------------------------------------------

One of my most memorable trips was an impulsive drive from MA to Denver
Colorado to pickup a vintage '55 Ford F-100 that a guy had for sale.
I drove the F-350 diesel I had at the time towing a car trailer.
Travelled alone, lots of things to see and time to reflect on stuff in
general.
Great trip. I think I turned the steering wheel very slightly two or
three times while in Nebraska.




One late night at the KC Star, we got a minor bulletin over The AP wire
stating the U.S. Army had lost an entire column of troops and gear
somewhere between southern Nebraska and northern Kansas. They were
"found" a few hours later.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 18th 13 06:35 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:



Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places


Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.


You can't see them on the interstate at 80 on the ground either. That
is why we pick a state or two and spend 2-3 weeks there. Things are
far enough apart, even then.


I love to travel by car when I have the time. Most people think of going
from PA to FL as being on I-95, I don't. I don't know how many times
I've made the trip on how many different routes. All of them very
enjoyable to me.

F.O.A.D. March 18th 13 06:55 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/13 2:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:



Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places

Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.


You can't see them on the interstate at 80 on the ground either. That
is why we pick a state or two and spend 2-3 weeks there. Things are
far enough apart, even then.


I love to travel by car when I have the time. Most people think of going
from PA to FL as being on I-95, I don't. I don't know how many times
I've made the trip on how many different routes. All of them very
enjoyable to me.


I've got a meeting in Philly coming up this fall. It's only for a few
days and I won't have the time to go wandering before or after the
meeting. Been to Philly many times; my dad was born there, and lived in
Elkins Park. Later, the family moved to Massachusetts. Anyway, I'm sure
I'll go up there and back on Amtrak.

Meyer[_2_] March 18th 13 08:30 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/2013 1:44 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/18/13 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:29:07 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 11:27 PM,
wrote:

Some of the biggest advantages to first class come before you get to
the plane. We pack pretty heavy and it is nice not having to worry
about heavy bag fees, too many bag fees etc.
I take a big duffel bag and a cooler, my wife takes 2 bags. Coming
home we might have 1 or 2 more "something"

I don't need a cooler. I bring a full size residential style
refrigerator with me when I travel and we have an 8 ft long full sized
closet. To each his own. ;-)


If I was going on vacation within a day's drive, I would but when I am
going out west I do not want to be driving for 4 or 5 days each way.
It takes a long day's drive, just to get out of Florida. I am 650
miles from the Alabama state line. Going straight north to Georgia is
well over 300.



Your time is valuable to you. Mired's time is worthless.


"Mired" has the time and where with all to enjoy life. Apparently
Krausie does not.

Meyer[_2_] March 18th 13 08:39 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/2013 2:55 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/18/13 2:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:


Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater,
look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places

Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.

You can't see them on the interstate at 80 on the ground either. That
is why we pick a state or two and spend 2-3 weeks there. Things are
far enough apart, even then.


I love to travel by car when I have the time. Most people think of going
from PA to FL as being on I-95, I don't. I don't know how many times
I've made the trip on how many different routes. All of them very
enjoyable to me.


I've got a meeting in Philly coming up this fall. It's only for a few
days and I won't have the time to go wandering before or after the
meeting. Been to Philly many times; my dad was born there, and lived in
Elkins Park. Later, the family moved to Massachusetts. Anyway, I'm sure
I'll go up there and back on Amtrak.


You need to get the Dr. Dr. to squeeze a little R and R time into her
schedule. She needs to take into account that you're on your last legs
and don't have the 30-40 years left that she does.

F.O.A.D. March 18th 13 09:02 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/18/13 3:49 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:55:55 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I've got a meeting in Philly coming up this fall. It's only for a few
days and I won't have the time to go wandering before or after the
meeting. Been to Philly many times; my dad was born there, and lived in
Elkins Park. Later, the family moved to Massachusetts. Anyway, I'm sure
I'll go up there and back on Amtrak.


How much is parking these days at the Beltway station?



Dunno...when I take the train for a short trip, I park at a $20 a day
downtown lot, and if it is for a long trip and I am paying, I park
across the river in Crystal City for $8.00 a day. The Union Station
parking is, I think, $22 a day. Now, if we are heading south on the
train to Florida, we park for free at the Alexandria Amtrak station,
since the trains stop there each way.

Never "trained" or parked at the Maryland beltway station. I've seen it,
of course. :)

I'm not a big fan of parking downtown if I have to pay for it. We go to
a half dozen ballgames a season at the Nationals stadium, where the
close-in parking is $25 or $30. It's more convenient, faster, and a lot
cheaper to park the car at the Suitland Metro station and take the Metro
to the ballpark. I have three clients who are at downtown locations. I
bill them for parking when I visit.

Wayne B March 18th 13 11:15 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:23:17 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I think I turned the steering wheel very slightly two or
three times while in Nebraska.


===

Some of those corn fields just don't line up perfectly square. :-)

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 12:38 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
On 3/19/13 8:30 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article om,
says...

(Snip)


It's not the destination, it's the journey, is the way I look at it.

As Cunard used to say: "Getting there is half the fun."

Also, great book, "The Only Way To Cross."


I'd rather *be* in Europe, Hawaii, or South America than wasting days
*getting* to Europe, or Hawaii, or South America.

iBoaterer[_3_] March 19th 13 01:06 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
In article ,
says...

On 3/18/13 2:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:


Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places

Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.

You can't see them on the interstate at 80 on the ground either. That
is why we pick a state or two and spend 2-3 weeks there. Things are
far enough apart, even then.


I love to travel by car when I have the time. Most people think of going
from PA to FL as being on I-95, I don't. I don't know how many times
I've made the trip on how many different routes. All of them very
enjoyable to me.


I've got a meeting in Philly coming up this fall. It's only for a few
days and I won't have the time to go wandering before or after the
meeting. Been to Philly many times; my dad was born there, and lived in
Elkins Park. Later, the family moved to Massachusetts. Anyway, I'm sure
I'll go up there and back on Amtrak.


From you to Philly there isn't very much to see!

F.O.A.D. March 19th 13 02:51 PM

Let's take a cruise, but only if we are constipated...
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 3/18/13 2:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:


Using your example, I might stop at Sarasota, Tampa/Clearwater, look up
Frogwatch, Destin, Pensacola, gulf beaches, on my way to the Alabama
state line. Or if you were heading to Georgia you might want to visit
some theme parks and St Augustine along the way.

But to each his own. Right?


I have been to all of those places. We like to see new places

Can't find new places if you fly over top of them.

You can't see them on the interstate at 80 on the ground either. That
is why we pick a state or two and spend 2-3 weeks there. Things are
far enough apart, even then.

I love to travel by car when I have the time. Most people think of going
from PA to FL as being on I-95, I don't. I don't know how many times
I've made the trip on how many different routes. All of them very
enjoyable to me.


I've got a meeting in Philly coming up this fall. It's only for a few
days and I won't have the time to go wandering before or after the
meeting. Been to Philly many times; my dad was born there, and lived in
Elkins Park. Later, the family moved to Massachusetts. Anyway, I'm sure
I'll go up there and back on Amtrak.


From you to Philly there isn't very much to see!


Not along the Interstate . The train ride is pleasant and short.


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