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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is
the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get
to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one
narrow minded category.


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unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are
thinking about education. What do you say about the lack of support or
changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are
still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting
from ignorance.

http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/
http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is
the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get
to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one
narrow minded category.


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unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are
thinking about education.

There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up
and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is
with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow
category.



What do you say about the lack of support or
changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are
still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting
from ignorance.

http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/
http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago

I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being
narrow minded.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The
Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools
to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is
the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we
get
to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one
narrow minded category.


-----------------

unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are
thinking about education.

There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up
and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is
with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow
category.



What do you say about the lack of support or
changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago
are
still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be
profiting
from ignorance.

http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/
http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago

I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being
narrow minded.


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Sure there a few that rise above the life in the inner city. Damn few.
When you have a 36% graduation rate, very few are going to be employable
except by drug dealers.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:07:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.


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What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They
should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can.

Huh? They barely have enough food, and welfare doesn't guarantee
housing. Yeah, scratching around for baby formula and going from
shelter to shelter in the winter gives people lots of time on their
hands.

No doubt you've never received anything from the government. You built
your own roads, you police your neighborhood, you put out your own
fires, you check your food for toxins, you make sure the planes don't
fly into each other, you don't give a **** if a product is dangerous,
because you check that yourself, you certainly don't get anything for
your taxes (oh wait, you don't pay taxes, so never mind), you didn't
benefit enormously from public education, you don't get medicare or
social security. Basically, you're a fungus.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

Maybe they think that they have no chance, so why bother. Yes, keep
them uneducated, isn't that the right-wing motto?

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:57:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

"Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power."

The liberal and union mantra.


Salmonbait

What liberal are you quoting?

Herman Goring.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:05:40 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back
in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the
teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You
were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters.
And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got
into the system without an apprenticeship.

You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent
the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to
do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field,
among many other things.

I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of
serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields.

On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the
public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s).
Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit.

We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was
actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before
he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school
(IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career
teachers so they brought real life experience to the class.
The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab
in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor.

Holly ****! A guy with an advanced degree or working toward one, and a
****ING LAWYER? You must be one damaged *******. I feel sorry for you!
snerk

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery
but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the
license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented,
you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong.

That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the
once a decade lottery.

Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state.
Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you
talk in generalities with no justification.

It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of
golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs.

The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then
when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity.

Try making some sense next time.
==========================

Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100
grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He
and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000
more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the
liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200
to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new
store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else.
At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus
the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the
lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which
is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and
you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents
and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued.
Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease.

Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't
add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are
different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license.

I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any
relevence.

It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker
includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get
a room.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:43 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:32:28 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Again, CITE?

Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was
complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a
mere $175k.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/

One county makes up the whole state????

From YOUR cite:

In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license
when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery
winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license
cost

Well, that's his ticket. It's all "personal" experience and ancedote.
Not actual facts.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:50:08 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:09 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:24:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:07:15 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person
who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find
one, The rest are still starving in their garage.

So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor
licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote
some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief.

That assumes the investor knows anything about running a store,
picking the right location, hiring the right people and if that was
true, why does he need YOU?

Yeah, because investors don't know anything nor care where they put
there money?

Because you got da license dummy. I thought you said they were hard to
get?

I said they were expensive to get. An investor is not going to give
you that kind of money if you can't convince him you have a chance of
operating the business.

Never heard of hands on investors? Wow. I thought you were a smart
guy.