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Brewing economic scandal
On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. |
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#103
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Brewing economic scandal
On 3/19/13 11:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? And the lies continue........ There's a lot of competition these days for tenure-track "professor" jobs at colleges and universities. |
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#104
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#105
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Brewing economic scandal
On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... |
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#106
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says... On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... You should, lord knows you haven't done any hard work. |
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#107
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On 3/19/13 1:14 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... I had a short, undistinguished career while I was getting my M.A., teaching college level English courses to freshmen. The job paid me enough to fill in the holes left by my grad fellowship and my savings. I was pleased to be able to get college degrees that were not trade or profession oriented. Some years later, much to my surprise, while I was working for a Detroit PR/Ad firm, one of my clients hired me part-time as a consultant to teach alphabetization to adjunct staff working on SuperNUCAL, a project that produced the world's largest, dullest book. It was a 29-volume set of the card catalogue of the Library of Congress, with annual supplements to be released. Heady stuff for an etymologist with only an M.A. |
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#108
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On 3/19/13 1:32 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... You should, lord knows you haven't done any hard work. He worked in a food warehouse for a while. Stacking crates is hard work. I know, because I did it at Shick Razor in Milford, Connecticut, one college summer. |
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#109
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Brewing economic scandal
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. HOw the **** would you know that? Oh, I get it, you're the all knowing all seeing one eyed oracle. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. Yes, how many times? Do they have access to all the things that the privliged white kids have in the burbs? Doubtful, and they get to dodge bullets on the way home from school (the run down one on the corner where the roof leaks and the teachers don't get hazzard pay). Sounds like you're blaming the kids because they aren't in an envirnment that gives them the opportunity to learn how to read. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. And, **** the rest. They dont deserve help. You're quite the humanitarian. |
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#110
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare or let them starve to death? What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids. |
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