"Wayne B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

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The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive
force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of
the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just
going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue.

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Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the
Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have
much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even
among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know
many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods
that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and
traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I
see nothing wrong with that.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne B" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

========

The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive
force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of
the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just
going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue.

---------------------------------------

Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the
Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have
much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even
among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know
many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods
that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and
traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I
see nothing wrong with that.



Last I checked overpopulation isn't a problem in the 1st world.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne B" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

========

The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive
force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of
the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just
going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue.

---------------------------------------

Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the
Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have
much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even
among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know
many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods
that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and
traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I
see nothing wrong with that.

====

That's all fine as far as it goes but the church has also been a
strong avocate for opposing legislation.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:02:20 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne B" wrote in message
. ..

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

========

The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive
force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of
the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just
going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue.

---------------------------------------

Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the
Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have
much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even
among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know
many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods
that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and
traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I
see nothing wrong with that.

====

That's all fine as far as it goes but the church has also been a
strong avocate for opposing legislation.


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should. The Church will
oppose some legislation and promote the other.


Salmonbait

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:02:20 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne B" wrote in message
. ..

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

========

The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive
force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of
the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just
going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue.

---------------------------------------

Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the
Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have
much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even
among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know
many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods
that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and
traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I
see nothing wrong with that.

====

That's all fine as far as it goes but the church has also been a
strong avocate for opposing legislation.


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should. The Church will
oppose some legislation and promote the other.


Salmonbait

But you are okay with wars, the death sentence, gun violence, hatred and
bigotry.... odd.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:27:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should.

=====

If the church is gong to act as a lobbyist for a faith based belief,
then they should lose their tax exempt status. Those bingo games and
carnivals bring in a lot of revenue which has nothing to do with the
church's mission.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:46:32 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:27:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should.

=====

If the church is gong to act as a lobbyist for a faith based belief,
then they should lose their tax exempt status. Those bingo games and
carnivals bring in a lot of revenue which has nothing to do with the
church's mission.

The Church may lobby against killing. Nothing wrong with that.

What did you say when your wife said, "Feel the baby kicking!"


Salmonbait

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On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:24:57 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:46:32 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:27:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should.

=====

If the church is gong to act as a lobbyist for a faith based belief,
then they should lose their tax exempt status. Those bingo games and
carnivals bring in a lot of revenue which has nothing to do with the
church's mission.

The Church may lobby against killing. Nothing wrong with that.

What did you say when your wife said, "Feel the baby kicking!"


=========

That's different. We've had this discussion before and I'm not going
to chase your circular reasoning. Be ready to start paying taxes on
those bingo earnings.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:14:07 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:24:57 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:46:32 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:27:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should.

=====

If the church is gong to act as a lobbyist for a faith based belief,
then they should lose their tax exempt status. Those bingo games and
carnivals bring in a lot of revenue which has nothing to do with the
church's mission.

The Church may lobby against killing. Nothing wrong with that.

What did you say when your wife said, "Feel the baby kicking!"


=========

That's different. We've had this discussion before and I'm not going
to chase your circular reasoning. Be ready to start paying taxes on
those bingo earnings.

Oh, 'that's different' - but only when it's *your* baby!

OK, enough is enough.

I'll gladly pay taxes on any gambling winnings I have at bingo games. Paying my taxes is not
something I do joyfully, but it *is* something I do!


Salmonbait

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Hope you're having a spectacular day!

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:24:57 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:46:32 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:27:32 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should.

=====

If the church is gong to act as a lobbyist for a faith based belief,
then they should lose their tax exempt status. Those bingo games and
carnivals bring in a lot of revenue which has nothing to do with the
church's mission.

The Church may lobby against killing. Nothing wrong with that.

What did you say when your wife said, "Feel the baby kicking!"


=========

That's different. We've had this discussion before and I'm not going
to chase your circular reasoning. Be ready to start paying taxes on
those bingo earnings.

Why should a religious institution be denied the right to speak freely?