On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:55:37 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:32:31 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Oh, 'that's different' - but only when it's *your* baby!


No, what's diffrent is that you are talking about late term abortion.
I am not.

OK, enough is enough.

I'll gladly pay taxes on any gambling winnings I have at bingo games. Paying my taxes is not
something I do joyfully, but it *is* something I do!

I'm talking about the Catholic church losing their tax exemption and
paying taxes on *their* gambling earnings.

How late is 'late'?



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On 3/16/2013 9:32 AM, BAR wrote:
In article om,
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On 3/15/2013 12:52 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:35:56 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/15/2013 12:30 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:23:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/15/13 12:09 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/15/2013 11:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/15/13 11:52 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/15/2013 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:57 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child into the world
just to comply with someone else's religious beliefs.


Kinda' like Row vs Wade forcing me to pay for someone else s
abortions?

The $500 abortion is a lot cheaper than 18 years of welfare and a life
time of prison costs.


And more specifically which women in the US don't have access simply
because there is an so far unsuccessful lobby group out there?


As just one example, there is a single abortion provider in the state of
Mississippi, and next month the state will hold a license hearing on the
facility in an attempt to shut it down.

I think Kansas and several other backwards states are moving in similar
directions, and I know there are attempts in Virginia to shut down
clinics.

So, there is an answer to your question. Women of Mississippi may soon
lose the one clinic in their state that provides abortions, and
therefore they will have no access unless they have a way to get to
another state.

Perhaps you should expand your research venues.

Yes, the answer to my question is there are no women in the US who don't
have access because of the Church.

If that Mississippi clinic is forced to close, lower income women in
Mississippi will not have reasonable access to a clinic, especially
since other southern states are proceeding similarly.

There are many other methods of birth control besides killing a baby. If there's only one clinic,
then very few folks have reasonable access to it anyway (remember all the problems you mentioned
yesterday?). Can they not get medical care at their local hospital? Perhaps education is the key.


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Doesn't seem to be a religious problem at all. It's the state
interfering with woman's rights.

Maybe it's the state protecting the baby's rights!


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It's not the state's business. There are already laws on the books
dealing with murder.

Why is an abortion not murder? When a woman who is pregnant is killed
and the baby is killed the killer can be charged with two murders.

Who said it isn't. And to your statement, the law, like religion, works
in mysterious ways.

On 3/16/13 2:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:30:00 -0400, BAR wrote:

If you want to **** for fun then
you have to be prepared for the consequences of your decisions.

Kids are not real good at thinking about consequences.


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high, along with videos for boys and girls on why and
how to use them. I think handing out the pill to young girls is
"iff'ier" because some girls react badly to the hormone changes that
accompany the pill. As far as I know, there are no negative consequences
to using a condom.

On 3/16/2013 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:30:17 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


There are many other methods of birth control besides killing a baby. If there's only one clinic,
then very few folks have reasonable access to it anyway (remember all the problems you mentioned
yesterday?). Can they not get medical care at their local hospital? Perhaps education is the key.


There are certainly birth control methods but when the egg is
fertilized you can either terminate it or pay that welfare and prison
cost.

When you force a 15 year old girl to have a baby, you ruin 2 lives.
**** Murphy Brown. Most of the single girls having babies are not
millionaires who have the resources to raise it.

Personally I would have the schools handing out free birth control. It
is the cheapest welfare program there is.



Why get the schools involved? I'll bet Harry would be willing to go door
to door handing it out for free.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:13:30 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

How late is 'late'?

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We've discussed that before. Look it up.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:37:01 -0400, BAR wrote:

Why should a religious institution be denied the right to speak freely?

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There is a difference between speaking freely and hard core lobbying
efforts.

They are one and the same.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:32:31 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Oh, 'that's different' - but only when it's *your* baby!


No, what's diffrent is that you are talking about late term abortion.
I am not.

OK, enough is enough.

I'll gladly pay taxes on any gambling winnings I have at bingo games. Paying my taxes is not
something I do joyfully, but it *is* something I do!

I'm talking about the Catholic church losing their tax exemption and
paying taxes on *their* gambling earnings.

The bingo players are dying off and the take is being reduced.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high .......

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They'd probably just take them into the classroom, blow them up and
make animal balloons out of them.

"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high .......

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They'd probably just take them into the classroom, blow them up and make
animal balloons out of them.

Great idea!

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:23:03 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:13:30 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

How late is 'late'?

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We've discussed that before. Look it up.

Nope. Not interested in trying to find your opinion. At least you agree there is a 'late'. That's
more than many. You're headed in the right direction.


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