On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:36:11 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/20/2013 9:26 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
I cleaned the oven a couple weeks ago. The next day, the panel readout and lights wouldn't come on,
and the oven didn't work. The stove top burners worked fine.

Took the back off the stove looking for a fuse. No fuse (that I could find). I did find a big
circuit board into which the oven knob and all the readouts fit. I jiggled the connections on the
board and put everything back together. Switched on the circuit breaker and the lights, timer, etc.
on the stove worked fine. The lights for the oven and broiler came on, and the oven worked.

But...the next day I went to broil some fish (more boating related stuff). I put the fish on the
broiler pan, turned on the broiler, got everything else ready, and came back in 8 minutes to get the
fish - which was still raw. The broiler didn't come on, although the light said it *should* be on. I
checked the broiler element and found no bad spots. It passed a continuity check. I got brave enough
to check the voltage on the leads coming to the broiler...nothing, even though the light was on. I
checked the multi-meter. It works fine.

So, I'm thinking it might be a problem with the circuit board. But, I would hate to waste $106
( http://tinyurl.com/b2fc496 )if I've just overlooked something else.

I know this doesn't sound very boating related, but we use the stove to cook food which we then take
on the boat to eat - sometimes.


Cleaning produces high heat which could lead to contact corrosion or
loose connections. I'd check those things a little closer.

I'm thinking jiggling with the connections is what got it working again the first time. I ordered
the circuit board. GE and the local appliance shop both wanted $180 for the part, but Appliance
Parts Experts had it for $99 plus shipping. We'll see what happens.

Salmonbait
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that's just a fetus!"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:19:09 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:36:11 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/20/2013 9:26 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
I cleaned the oven a couple weeks ago. The next day, the panel readout and lights wouldn't come on,
and the oven didn't work. The stove top burners worked fine.

Took the back off the stove looking for a fuse. No fuse (that I could find). I did find a big
circuit board into which the oven knob and all the readouts fit. I jiggled the connections on the
board and put everything back together. Switched on the circuit breaker and the lights, timer, etc.
on the stove worked fine. The lights for the oven and broiler came on, and the oven worked.

But...the next day I went to broil some fish (more boating related stuff). I put the fish on the
broiler pan, turned on the broiler, got everything else ready, and came back in 8 minutes to get the
fish - which was still raw. The broiler didn't come on, although the light said it *should* be on. I
checked the broiler element and found no bad spots. It passed a continuity check. I got brave enough
to check the voltage on the leads coming to the broiler...nothing, even though the light was on. I
checked the multi-meter. It works fine.

So, I'm thinking it might be a problem with the circuit board. But, I would hate to waste $106
( http://tinyurl.com/b2fc496 )if I've just overlooked something else.

I know this doesn't sound very boating related, but we use the stove to cook food which we then take
on the boat to eat - sometimes.


Cleaning produces high heat which could lead to contact corrosion or
loose connections. I'd check those things a little closer.

I'm thinking jiggling with the connections is what got it working again the first time. I ordered
the circuit board. GE and the local appliance shop both wanted $180 for the part, but Appliance
Parts Experts had it for $99 plus shipping. We'll see what happens.


====

If it were mine I'd try cleaning the board edge connectors with
contact cleaner and then re-seat it a couple of times.

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:19:09 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:36:11 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/20/2013 9:26 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
I cleaned the oven a couple weeks ago. The next day, the panel
readout and lights wouldn't come on,
and the oven didn't work. The stove top burners worked fine.

Took the back off the stove looking for a fuse. No fuse (that I
could find). I did find a big
circuit board into which the oven knob and all the readouts fit. I
jiggled the connections on the
board and put everything back together. Switched on the circuit
breaker and the lights, timer, etc.
on the stove worked fine. The lights for the oven and broiler came
on, and the oven worked.

But...the next day I went to broil some fish (more boating related
stuff). I put the fish on the
broiler pan, turned on the broiler, got everything else ready, and
came back in 8 minutes to get the
fish - which was still raw. The broiler didn't come on, although
the light said it *should* be on. I
checked the broiler element and found no bad spots. It passed a
continuity check. I got brave enough
to check the voltage on the leads coming to the broiler...nothing,
even though the light was on. I
checked the multi-meter. It works fine.

So, I'm thinking it might be a problem with the circuit board.
But, I would hate to waste $106
( http://tinyurl.com/b2fc496 )if I've just overlooked something
else.

I know this doesn't sound very boating related, but we use the
stove to cook food which we then take
on the boat to eat - sometimes.


Cleaning produces high heat which could lead to contact corrosion or
loose connections. I'd check those things a little closer.

I'm thinking jiggling with the connections is what got it working
again the first time. I ordered
the circuit board. GE and the local appliance shop both wanted $180
for the part, but Appliance
Parts Experts had it for $99 plus shipping. We'll see what happens.


====

If it were mine I'd try cleaning the board edge connectors with
contact cleaner and then re-seat it a couple of times.

----------------------------------------------

A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed.
Don't ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill
you.

On 2/20/13 2:53 PM, Eisboch wrote:


A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed. Don't
ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill you.


This is really intriguing because a Mac store "genius" told me the same
thing when I asked him how to clean the connectors on Apple's new USB to
Lightning cable on the end that plugs into the iPhone. The new connector
is pretty small, maybe 5/16" of an inch across, and pins are tiny. Now,
I wonder what whoever came up with that idea and you have in common?

http://tinyurl.com/cwk75ru

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 2/20/13 2:53 PM, Eisboch wrote:


A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of
the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed.
Don't
ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill you.


This is really intriguing because a Mac store "genius" told me the
same
thing when I asked him how to clean the connectors on Apple's new USB
to
Lightning cable on the end that plugs into the iPhone. The new
connector
is pretty small, maybe 5/16" of an inch across, and pins are tiny.
Now,
I wonder what whoever came up with that idea and you have in common?

---------------------------------------

It's really nothing new. I used to work on ship board cryptographic
equipment that had to be opened daily. (Ancient Navy). The contacts
would become dirty and/or worn over time. Cleaning them with the
linen/cotton dollar bill was effective and more importantly didn't
scratch or cause any damage to the sensitive contacts. The method
also didn't leave any residue to inhibit the electrical connection.

On 2/20/13 4:39 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news
On 2/20/13 2:53 PM, Eisboch wrote:


A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed. Don't
ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill you.


This is really intriguing because a Mac store "genius" told me the same
thing when I asked him how to clean the connectors on Apple's new USB to
Lightning cable on the end that plugs into the iPhone. The new connector
is pretty small, maybe 5/16" of an inch across, and pins are tiny. Now,
I wonder what whoever came up with that idea and you have in common?

---------------------------------------

It's really nothing new. I used to work on ship board cryptographic
equipment that had to be opened daily. (Ancient Navy). The contacts
would become dirty and/or worn over time. Cleaning them with the
linen/cotton dollar bill was effective and more importantly didn't
scratch or cause any damage to the sensitive contacts. The method also
didn't leave any residue to inhibit the electrical connection.


Maybe the app store guy's granddad was in the Navy. If I see him again,
I'll ask.

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...


Maybe the app store guy's granddad was in the Navy. If I see him
again,
I'll ask.

Har har.

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news
On 2/20/13 2:53 PM, Eisboch wrote:


A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of
the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed.
Don't
ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill you.


This is really intriguing because a Mac store "genius" told me the
same
thing when I asked him how to clean the connectors on Apple's new USB
to
Lightning cable on the end that plugs into the iPhone. The new
connector
is pretty small, maybe 5/16" of an inch across, and pins are tiny.
Now,
I wonder what whoever came up with that idea and you have in common?

---------------------------------------

It's really nothing new. I used to work on ship board cryptographic
equipment that had to be opened daily. (Ancient Navy). The contacts
would become dirty and/or worn over time. Cleaning them with the
linen/cotton dollar bill was effective and more importantly didn't
scratch or cause any damage to the sensitive contacts. The method
also didn't leave any residue to inhibit the electrical connection.

Is this what it looked like?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraph_key

"BAR" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
news
On 2/20/13 2:53 PM, Eisboch wrote:


A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of
the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed.
Don't
ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill you.


This is really intriguing because a Mac store "genius" told me the
same
thing when I asked him how to clean the connectors on Apple's new
USB
to
Lightning cable on the end that plugs into the iPhone. The new
connector
is pretty small, maybe 5/16" of an inch across, and pins are tiny.
Now,
I wonder what whoever came up with that idea and you have in common?

---------------------------------------

It's really nothing new. I used to work on ship board cryptographic
equipment that had to be opened daily. (Ancient Navy). The contacts
would become dirty and/or worn over time. Cleaning them with the
linen/cotton dollar bill was effective and more importantly didn't
scratch or cause any damage to the sensitive contacts. The method
also didn't leave any residue to inhibit the electrical connection.

Is this what it looked like?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegraph_key

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not quite. I am not *that* old (although they had telegraph keys
onboard for emergency communications)

During the time I was in the Navy, messages were sent via teletype
machines transmitted on HF transmitters. Ship to ship and ship to
shore was single channel. The "fleet broadcast" was multiplexed,
multichannel. All was encrypted and deciphered using automatic
cryptographic equipment. This was back in the late 60's and 70's.
Communications via satellite was just being developed and by the time
I left the Navy in 1979, most of the HF transmitter sites were being
de-commissioned.

One of the ships I was on received the first beta "Sat Nav" system ...
a precursor to modern GPS. Very high-tech at the time.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:53:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Wayne B" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:19:09 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:36:11 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/20/2013 9:26 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
I cleaned the oven a couple weeks ago. The next day, the panel
readout and lights wouldn't come on,
and the oven didn't work. The stove top burners worked fine.

Took the back off the stove looking for a fuse. No fuse (that I
could find). I did find a big
circuit board into which the oven knob and all the readouts fit. I
jiggled the connections on the
board and put everything back together. Switched on the circuit
breaker and the lights, timer, etc.
on the stove worked fine. The lights for the oven and broiler came
on, and the oven worked.

But...the next day I went to broil some fish (more boating related
stuff). I put the fish on the
broiler pan, turned on the broiler, got everything else ready, and
came back in 8 minutes to get the
fish - which was still raw. The broiler didn't come on, although
the light said it *should* be on. I
checked the broiler element and found no bad spots. It passed a
continuity check. I got brave enough
to check the voltage on the leads coming to the broiler...nothing,
even though the light was on. I
checked the multi-meter. It works fine.

So, I'm thinking it might be a problem with the circuit board.
But, I would hate to waste $106
( http://tinyurl.com/b2fc496 )if I've just overlooked something
else.

I know this doesn't sound very boating related, but we use the
stove to cook food which we then take
on the boat to eat - sometimes.


Cleaning produces high heat which could lead to contact corrosion or
loose connections. I'd check those things a little closer.

I'm thinking jiggling with the connections is what got it working
again the first time. I ordered
the circuit board. GE and the local appliance shop both wanted $180
for the part, but Appliance
Parts Experts had it for $99 plus shipping. We'll see what happens.


====

If it were mine I'd try cleaning the board edge connectors with
contact cleaner and then re-seat it a couple of times.

----------------------------------------------

A great method of cleaning edge connectors on circuit boards is to
burnish them with a dollar bill. The linen and cotton texture of the
bill is perfect for this. No cleaning fluid of any kind needed.
Don't ask me how I know this because if I told you I'd have to kill
you.


Thank you too. l'll try that before I unwrap the package. I believe the parts folks will take it
back if not installed.

We'll see.

Salmonbait
--

"That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!"