On Feb 19, 10:50*pm, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:23:47 UTC-4, Meyer *wrote:
On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer *wrote:

On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote:

On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote:

Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo

that are owned by the public?

What would be the point?

Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell

an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? *Why

can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own

drones? *Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I

want to?

Why am I being punished?

That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years

I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were

incapable of shooting the person holding them. *Would they find

another way? *What percentage? *Should we make other, less violent

methods available to suicidal persons?

The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of

the left's favorite example of gun control.

Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say

under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those

other maladies? *I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those

stats above? *Not so many.

The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns.

Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory

breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat

belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)

* * That might save more people than banning guns.

Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more.

Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity.

What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4?

If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he

can *stop* it though.

Salmonbait

I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the

princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that

pyrite gray devil of a rave 4.

Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne.

BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning.

Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2

footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the

boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and

batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine

pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car

loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned

you about that.

Boat alone weighs just over half a ton.
Johnny cautioning me... SNERK!

Well, since your ****-brown Rav 4 only has 175 horse at SIX THOUSAND
rpm....Im suprised if it could tow your ****ty boat UP a hill.

Its a tad overweight as well, at 3,675 pounds......

Only has 7.5 INCHES of ground clearance.....

4 cylinder ****box, with a toothless owner.