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On 2/19/2013 2:00 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 11:33 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 2/19/2013 9:56 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 9:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA.
Data
is
the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease
Control.
Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and
firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten.
It's
interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered
about 3
times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus
is on
more gun control laws.

Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,
but
rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364
Traffic accidents: 33,808
Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)


There are solid statistically based predictions that state that
firearms
deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.

Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old
age.

On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics
course
and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of
math,
so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats
courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths
vs.
cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such
comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd.
Yes,
more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"

==========================

The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving
firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths
exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.
Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most
suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As
stated
in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in
perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of
course
but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also
cannot
be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But
the
number is not the huge number that some of the media and
proponents of
even more gun control measure would like you to believe.

My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.

Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their
citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect
example.

You stupid little fool!!!

You fat old drunk... do you really think I am gonna' read anything you
write?



Yup. Because...you do.

He tripped himself up just as you have done on many occasions.


Nope... I just look at the screen. Usually by the first sentence I see
if it's kevin, don, asshole, the other asshole.. etc.. and I skip to the
next post. I never see the meat as none of them can write a decent post...
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On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:07:53 PM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 2/19/2013 2:00 PM, Meyer wrote:

On 2/19/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 2/19/13 11:33 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


In article ,




says...




On 2/19/2013 9:56 AM, Meyer wrote:


On 2/19/2013 9:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:


On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch"


wrote:








"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:


For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA.


Data


is


the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease


Control.


Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and


firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten.


It's


interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered


about 3


times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus


is on


more gun control laws.




Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,


but


rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.




Heart disease: 597,689


Cancer: 574,743


Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080


Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476


Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859


Alzheimer's disease: 83,494


Diabetes: 69,071


Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476


Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097


Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364


Traffic accidents: 33,808


Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)






There are solid statistically based predictions that state that


firearms


deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.




Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old


age.




On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics


course


and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of


math,


so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats


courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths


vs.


cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such


comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd.


Yes,


more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"




==========================




The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving


firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths


exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.


Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most


suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As


stated


in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in


perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of


course


but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also


cannot


be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But


the


number is not the huge number that some of the media and


proponents of


even more gun control measure would like you to believe.




My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.




Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their


citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect


example.




You stupid little fool!!!




You fat old drunk... do you really think I am gonna' read anything you


write?








Yup. Because...you do.




He tripped himself up just as you have done on many occasions.




Nope... I just look at the screen. Usually by the first sentence I see

if it's kevin, don, asshole, the other asshole.. etc.. and I skip to the

next post. I never see the meat as none of them can write a decent post...



I do admit it is extremely hard to "write a decent post" about you, your Peter Pan lifestyle or your criminally insane rants.
So...who's fault is that?
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On 2/19/2013 5:16 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:07:53 PM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 2/19/2013 2:00 PM, Meyer wrote:

On 2/19/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 2/19/13 11:33 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


In article ,




says...




On 2/19/2013 9:56 AM, Meyer wrote:


On 2/19/2013 9:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:


On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch"


wrote:








"F.O.A.D." wrote in message


...




On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:


For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA.


Data


is


the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease


Control.


Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and


firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten.


It's


interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered


about 3


times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus


is on


more gun control laws.




Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,


but


rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.




Heart disease: 597,689


Cancer: 574,743


Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080


Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476


Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859


Alzheimer's disease: 83,494


Diabetes: 69,071


Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476


Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097


Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364


Traffic accidents: 33,808


Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)






There are solid statistically based predictions that state that


firearms


deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.




Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old


age.




On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics


course


and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of


math,


so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats


courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths


vs.


cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such


comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd.


Yes,


more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"




==========================




The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving


firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths


exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.


Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most


suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As


stated


in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in


perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of


course


but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also


cannot


be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But


the


number is not the huge number that some of the media and


proponents of


even more gun control measure would like you to believe.




My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.




Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their


citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect


example.




You stupid little fool!!!




You fat old drunk... do you really think I am gonna' read anything you


write?








Yup. Because...you do.




He tripped himself up just as you have done on many occasions.




Nope... I just look at the screen. Usually by the first sentence I see

if it's kevin, don, asshole, the other asshole.. etc.. and I skip to the

next post. I never see the meat as none of them can write a decent post...



I do admit it is extremely hard to "write a decent post" about you, your Peter Pan lifestyle or your criminally insane rants.
So...who's fault is that?

Yours, actually. You havent written a decent post about anything in
several years, at least. You won't because you can't. You're just a
Harry enabler. Write something interesting about that fine new boat of
yours. Betcha can't.
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On 2/19/2013 5:07 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 2:00 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 11:33 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 2/19/2013 9:56 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 9:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA.
Data
is
the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for
Disease
Control.
Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and
firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten.
It's
interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered
about 3
times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus
is on
more gun control laws.

Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by
firearms,
but
rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364
Traffic accidents: 33,808
Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)


There are solid statistically based predictions that state that
firearms
deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.

Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old
age.

On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics
course
and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of
math,
so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats
courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car
deaths
vs.
cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such
comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd.
Yes,
more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"

==========================

The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving
firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths
exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.
Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most
suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As
stated
in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in
perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of
course
but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also
cannot
be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But
the
number is not the huge number that some of the media and
proponents of
even more gun control measure would like you to believe.

My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.

Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their
citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect
example.

You stupid little fool!!!

You fat old drunk... do you really think I am gonna' read anything you
write?



Yup. Because...you do.

He tripped himself up just as you have done on many occasions.


Nope... I just look at the screen. Usually by the first sentence I see
if it's kevin, don, asshole, the other asshole.. etc.. and I skip to the
next post. I never see the meat as none of them can write a decent post...


Actually there never seems to be any meat in their posts. They are all
pansys.
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In article ,
says...

On 2/19/2013 2:00 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 11:33 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 2/19/2013 9:56 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 9:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA.
Data
is
the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease
Control.
Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and
firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten.
It's
interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered
about 3
times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus
is on
more gun control laws.

Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms,
but
rather an attempt to put it all in perspective.

Heart disease: 597,689
Cancer: 574,743
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859
Alzheimer's disease: 83,494
Diabetes: 69,071
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476
Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364
Traffic accidents: 33,808
Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides)


There are solid statistically based predictions that state that
firearms
deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years.

Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old
age.

On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics
course
and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of
math,
so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats
courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths
vs.
cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such
comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd.
Yes,
more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?"

==========================

The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving
firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths
exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides.
Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most
suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As
stated
in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in
perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of
course
but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also
cannot
be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But
the
number is not the huge number that some of the media and
proponents of
even more gun control measure would like you to believe.

My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.

Funny how it's the bigger nanny states, they really don't want their
citizens to have a "say" in their government... Mass is a perfect
example.

You stupid little fool!!!

You fat old drunk... do you really think I am gonna' read anything you
write?



Yup. Because...you do.

He tripped himself up just as you have done on many occasions.


Nope... I just look at the screen. Usually by the first sentence I see
if it's kevin, don, asshole, the other asshole.. etc.. and I skip to the
next post. I never see the meat as none of them can write a decent post...


Yes, we realize that you are proud of your ignorance. A wise person, if
they didn't want to read and understand what they've read, wouldn't
comment on what they didn't read, it just makes you look dumber.


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