On 2/21/13 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:15:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/21/13 12:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:


Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory
breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat
belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)
That might save more people than banning guns.

Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart
phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're
saving thousands of lives.

Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better
be strapped in!

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.



I just love the drivers who start fiddling with their smart phones while
stopped at a traffic light and are still fiddling when the light turns
green. If I am right behind them, I'll lean on the horn until they
resuscitate themselves and start moving through the intersection.
Next time I stop at WaWa for coffee and there's a deputy in there, I
might ask how many tickets are handed out for hands-on cell phone use
while driving. I'm betting it isn't very many, but I see lots of people
doing it.

I am finally getting people to admit that talking on the phone is
distracting. (hands free or not)
One of my neighbors fell in a hole, walking and talking on a hands
free.
Didn't heed the hole or the cones. He said his mind was on the other
end of that call. He says, in retrospect, he did see the cones but it
did not register.


I can walk and talk on the phone if I am wearing my earbuds and still
concentrate on where I am walking. But if I added "chew gum" to that
mix, I'd probably step in front of a bus without realizing it. Driving?
No. If I have to make a call while in the car, I pull off the road into
a safe spot. I don't answer calls while driving, though.

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

In article , says...

On 2/21/13 12:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:


Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory
breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat
belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)
That might save more people than banning guns.

Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart
phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're
saving thousands of lives.

Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better
be strapped in!

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.



I just love the drivers who start fiddling with their smart phones while
stopped at a traffic light and are still fiddling when the light turns
green. If I am right behind them, I'll lean on the horn until they
resuscitate themselves and start moving through the intersection.
Next time I stop at WaWa for coffee and there's a deputy in there, I
might ask how many tickets are handed out for hands-on cell phone use
while driving. I'm betting it isn't very many, but I see lots of people
doing it.

Around here you'd be lucky to get out of that situation without a severe
ass kicking or getting shot. Commutes suck enough without some asshole
blasting the horn the second the light turns green.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:15:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/21/13 12:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:


Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory
breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat
belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)
That might save more people than banning guns.

Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart
phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're
saving thousands of lives.

Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better
be strapped in!

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.



I just love the drivers who start fiddling with their smart phones while
stopped at a traffic light and are still fiddling when the light turns
green. If I am right behind them, I'll lean on the horn until they
resuscitate themselves and start moving through the intersection.
Next time I stop at WaWa for coffee and there's a deputy in there, I
might ask how many tickets are handed out for hands-on cell phone use
while driving. I'm betting it isn't very many, but I see lots of people
doing it.

I am finally getting people to admit that talking on the phone is
distracting. (hands free or not)
One of my neighbors fell in a hole, walking and talking on a hands
free.
Didn't heed the hole or the cones. He said his mind was on the other
end of that call. He says, in retrospect, he did see the cones but it
did not register.

I agree, talking on a hands free phone is still very distracting and
dangerous.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:15:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Feb 20, 5:42*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/20/13 6:30 PM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 20, 7:04 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/20/13 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Feb 20, 6:45 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest
with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services
like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make
such "communication" more accessible and portable.

I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated
boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating,
computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then,
I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is
overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person.
I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters
and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably.

rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties
drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and
they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us
remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle.

Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh
of the day.

Thanks again!

Maybe you should drop your crazy right-wing friends from rec.boats off
your Facebook friends list.

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

Maybe you need to add a few.


None of these righties have exhibited the sort of craziness,
small-mindedness, racial hatred, and bile of some of the righties here,

None on my friends list do either.

....and the only person in the group who made use of the n-word, quite often, was a liberal.

Salmonbait
--

"That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:35:51 -0500, Earl wrote:

F.O.A.D. wrote:


I haven't read through the bill yet, but...it is already fairly
difficult to get a concealed carry permit in Maryland. I doubt if the
bill "loosened" the regulations.

The people voting on it probably haven't read it either - just like the
health care bill. Maybe they can add some pork to prevent tax cheats
and welfare recipients from owning any firearms. That would be outstanding.

I would be willing to bet that less than 5% of the homicides committed in Maryland were committed
with the types of guns the bill would outlaw.

The bill is designed to appease liberals who don't have the sense to see that more wool is being
pulled over their eyes. ESAD thinks it's great, not because it will accomplish anything, but because
it's being put forth by liberals and some conservatives don't like it.

And, that's fine. If all the liberals are in favor of the bill simply because it might **** off a
few conservatives, they should go for it. At least they have a reason. The idea that it's going to
save a lot of lives is simply bull****.

Salmonbait
--

"That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, it's just a fetus!"

On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:04:37 PM UTC-5, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:





Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory

breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat

belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)

That might save more people than banning guns.



Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're saving thousands of lives.



Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better be strapped in!



We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.

Oh sure, so do I. I should have more specific. Eating a whole meal when driving. You know, juggling the burger, fries and milkshake with a knee on the wheel.

The other day on my way to work, I was doing 35mph in an active, flashing lights 35mph school zone. County deputy sheriff passed me IN THE ZONE doing 45-50, on his cell phone. Once we got past it to the 55mph stretch, I set my cruise on 60 and slowly passed him, still in the left lane, and still talking on his cell. Figured if he actually stopped me we'd have a calm, but interesting, discussion.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:27:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/21/13 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:15:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/21/13 12:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:


Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory
breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat
belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)
That might save more people than banning guns.

Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart
phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're
saving thousands of lives.

Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better
be strapped in!

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.



I just love the drivers who start fiddling with their smart phones while
stopped at a traffic light and are still fiddling when the light turns
green. If I am right behind them, I'll lean on the horn until they
resuscitate themselves and start moving through the intersection.
Next time I stop at WaWa for coffee and there's a deputy in there, I
might ask how many tickets are handed out for hands-on cell phone use
while driving. I'm betting it isn't very many, but I see lots of people
doing it.

I am finally getting people to admit that talking on the phone is
distracting. (hands free or not)
One of my neighbors fell in a hole, walking and talking on a hands
free.
Didn't heed the hole or the cones. He said his mind was on the other
end of that call. He says, in retrospect, he did see the cones but it
did not register.


I can walk and talk on the phone if I am wearing my earbuds and still
concentrate on where I am walking. But if I added "chew gum" to that
mix, I'd probably step in front of a bus without realizing it. Driving?
No. If I have to make a call while in the car, I pull off the road into
a safe spot. I don't answer calls while driving, though.

I read somewhere that it makes no difference if its hands free or
having the phone in your hand... like being drunk. that level of bad.

In article ,
says...

On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:04:37 PM UTC-5, thumper wrote:
On 2/19/2013 11:29 AM, wrote:

On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:37:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:





Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory

breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat

belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974)

That might save more people than banning guns.



Nah... just install a device that blocks the driver from *all* smart phone usage, application of makeup, or eating/drinking, and we're saving thousands of lives.



Oh, and no dogs in your lap when driving. The kids damn well better be strapped in!



We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.

Oh sure, so do I. I should have more specific. Eating a whole meal when driving. You know, juggling the burger, fries and milkshake with a knee on the wheel.

The other day on my way to work, I was doing 35mph in an active, flashing lights 35mph school zone. County deputy sheriff passed me IN THE ZONE doing 45-50, on his cell phone. Once we got past it to the 55mph stretch, I set my cruise on 60 and slowly passed him, still in the left lane, and still talking on his cell. Figured if he actually stopped me we'd have a calm, but interesting, discussion.

Some of the worst drivers I encounter during rush hour is women putting
on makeup. Mirror turned around, not paying one bit of attention.

On 2/21/2013 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:04:37 PM UTC-5, thumper wrote:

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.

Oh sure, so do I. I should have more specific. Eating a whole meal when driving. You know, juggling the burger, fries and milkshake with a knee on the wheel.

The other day on my way to work, I was doing 35mph in an active, flashing lights 35mph school zone. County deputy sheriff passed me IN THE ZONE doing 45-50, on his cell phone. Once we got past it to the 55mph stretch, I set my cruise on 60 and slowly passed him, still in the left lane, and still talking on his cell. Figured if he actually stopped me we'd have a calm, but interesting, discussion.

A friend recently described seeing a driver eating a plate full of
pancakes from his lap...!

On 2/21/2013 10:51 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/21/2013 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:04:37 PM UTC-5, thumper wrote:

We agree on something... except I do take a sip of water occasionally.

Oh sure, so do I. I should have more specific. Eating a whole meal
when driving. You know, juggling the burger, fries and milkshake with
a knee on the wheel.

The other day on my way to work, I was doing 35mph in an active,
flashing lights 35mph school zone. County deputy sheriff passed me IN
THE ZONE doing 45-50, on his cell phone. Once we got past it to the
55mph stretch, I set my cruise on 60 and slowly passed him, still in
the left lane, and still talking on his cell. Figured if he actually
stopped me we'd have a calm, but interesting, discussion.

A friend recently described seeing a driver eating a plate full of
pancakes from his lap...!


Oh well, not since I was a younger man but I have done pretty much
anything you can think of in the drivers seat or going down the
highway Including and not limited to switching seats with the driver
of a big rig, while we were doing 70 down 65 out of Valley Forge
somewhere heading for Scottsborough Alabama