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On 2/20/2013 5:48 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" You forgot to get advise beforehand...? |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:58:56 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:48 AM, Salmonbait wrote: Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" You forgot to get advise beforehand...? Let's see...am I looking for a verb or a noun. Better get some lessons from UrineAsshole. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride,it's only a fetus!" |
#125
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On 2/20/13 11:58 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:48 AM, Salmonbait wrote: Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" You forgot to get advise beforehand...? Maybe a family member left it there as a fervent wish. -- I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work for me. |
#126
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On 2/20/2013 9:08 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:58:56 -0800, thumper wrote: On 2/20/2013 5:48 AM, Salmonbait wrote: Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" You forgot to get advise beforehand...? Let's see...am I looking for a verb or a noun. Good catch. I shouldn't post before coffee. |
#127
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:09:42 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/20/13 11:58 AM, thumper wrote: On 2/20/2013 5:48 AM, Salmonbait wrote: Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" You forgot to get advise beforehand...? Maybe a family member left it there as a fervent wish. Nah.... Harry... you can confess to it! |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:08:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 2/19/13 3:46 PM, Eisboch wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message ... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote: For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA. Data is the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease Control. Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten. It's interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered about 3 times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus is on more gun control laws. Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms, but rather an attempt to put it all in perspective. Heart disease: 597,689 Cancer: 574,743 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859 Alzheimer's disease: 83,494 Diabetes: 69,071 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476 Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364 Traffic accidents: 33,808 Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides) There are solid statistically based predictions that state that firearms deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years. Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old age. On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics course and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of math, so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths vs. cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd. Yes, more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?" ========================== The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides. Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As stated in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of course but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also cannot be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But the number is not the huge number that some of the media and proponents of even more gun control measure would like you to believe. My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. Permits require background checks and every purchase of a firearm at a dealer involves a telephone check and taking of an electronic fingerprint to verify that you are who you say you are and your permit is valid. You must present a valid permit even for ammunition purchases. But, our me-too governor has proposed and is pushing for even more restrictive laws including jail time for purchasing more than one firearm per month for existing permit holders, making getting a permit more difficult, and putting a heavy state tax (up to 50%) on all ammunition sales (even range target practice rounds). I don't see how that is going to affect the homicide rate by firearms in the country. All it is is political posturing in reaction to a horrible but isolated event caused by a kid who was severely disturbed .... as are all cases of mass murders. By that twisted ****ing logic, we might as well do away with the NTSB and all the other safety protocols, since they result in fewer deaths. How about faulty cribs. What a load of horse****. You have a product that's killing 1000s of people, but since it doesn't kill as many as cancer, it's ok. ------------------------------------------------------- The numbers were presented to put things in perspective. Of course any deaths due to firearms is not ok .... but the number, especially in homicides, is not what is being hyped by the media and others and some politicians are over-reacting IMO, like the governor of my state. How are they overreacting? Because more people die from cancer? Is cancer made by others in a factory for the sole purpose of killing like a gun is? THAT is where you idiots sound so stupid. -------------------------------------------------- First of all, I am not an idiot. Second of all, although guns can kill, not all gun owners own them to kill. Third, and for the final time, the numbers I presented were not intended to compare cancer to guns. It was simply to establish some realism in terms of the major causes of all deaths, including those by guns. For a nation with a population of over 315 million, the number of homicide deaths involving guns is relatively small. Don't go off your rocker assuming that I therefore think that's ok. Of course it isn't. But people have to be realistic when babbling about new gun laws. Well, good. You're not an idiot. Umm... the major cause of death is death. Everyone dies. Your list isn't inclusive or accurate. What about hospital deaths? Who is not being realistic about gun laws and what does that have to do with cancer deaths? If the two are unrelated, then there's no reason to list them together... unless you want to list all the causes, which might be a****ing long list. If it's not ok, propose something that will help the situation... here's a few... universal background checks, limiting the size of clips, increase funding for mental health services, make it easier for phychiatrists to report people who are dangerous, relax the limits on how long transaction info can be stored, require all transactions of guns to be recorded (just like a car.. if it's a family member, a minimal fee is required), make these things federal not state, so guns can't be bought in one state and moved to another without a record. Feel free to add some of yourown. |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:37:14 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. Wait a sec... you're for banning smart phones, but not for some reasonable restrictions on gun purchases??????? |
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